Irrational Rationalists: Effective Altruists & The Planet of the Ants

Irrational Rationalists: Effective Altruists & The Planet of the Ants

Isaac Asimov in The Naked Sun, one of his many robot-mystery books, wrote that the minds of his positronic-brained robots (unlike our forever-dumb switch-brained computers) were “Logical but not reasonable.” That trope, as you well know, was then recycled endlessly in sci-fi.

Take Mr Spock, who was not only supremely logical, but who was always trotting around spouting probabilities for complex events, which numbers were accepted with somber seriousness by Captain James Tiberius Kirk. Hey, they were numbers, and found via complex calculation, which made them Science. Therefore they had to be right, right?

Wrong. That conclusion is logical but not reasonable.

Bear with me, because although the point I’m about to make, and have made endless times during the Class, seems dull and dry, and is dull and dry, it has profound consequences, which we’ll see below.

What is logic? Logic is the study of the relations between propositions. That’s it. That is all logic is, and nothing more. Relations between propositions, mark you, and not the origins of propositions. Logic gives the relation, and reason (hence reasonable) gives the propositions. I cannot emphasize these facts too strongly.

Briefly, probability is also logic. Thus all probability judgements are statements about relations between propositions, and nothing more. Any mindless computer can be programmed to churn out relations between propositions, but none of them can be reasonable about those propositions.

Which makes what Spock was doing logical but not reasonable, because it is not the logic or probability, but the propositions themselves that are of paramount importance in making any decision, especially life-or-death ones, like whether to wipe out Klingons in orbit around Uranus.

We wanted to know what evidence Spock based his calculations on, not the numbers. But we never learned. Whose lives was he valuing more? Klingons or man? What about the costs of damages? These questions are not logical. But they, and not logic, make all difference in deciding whether to open fire.

Effective Altruists

Which beings us to the Effective Altruists, an offshoot or subset (and a large one) of the Rationalists. A better term for either group, given what we have just learned, would be Logicalists. These folks, many of whom are ginning the latest AI panic (see this), pride themselves on their logical rational thinking, and have elevated prowess in these feats to the level of religion.

Effective altrusits are logical but not reasonable, because they have either forgotten, and more likely never learned, those dull and dry facts I reminded us of above. Which deficit causes them to wild flights of logical fantasy, because they assume—unthinkingly—that their beginning propositions, also called premises, are the one and only natural premises to use in any argument.

As proof of this, I bring you the eminently logical, but not reasonable, article Insects Matter More Than People in the Aggregate. (As of this writing, that piece has almost 2 million views, which is why I’m bringing it to you. This article in rebutal will get maybe two thousand. Ah, well.)

The author, Bentham’s Bulldog (apt name), bills himself as an Effective Altruist. And it seems he is indeed a typical member of the breed.

His logical argument, in brief, is that insects suffer pain, pain (a tacit premise of his) is bad, and because insects vastly outnumber humans, their lives in aggregate morally outweigh the life of men. A flavor of his writing:

Here’s an argument for an infinite number of insects mattering more than a single human.

We evolved from creatures very much like insects. Plausibly no generation mattered more than 100x more than the one immediately before it. Let’s say there are 100 billion generations between us and insects. That would mean that we can matter no more than 100^(100 billion) times more than an insect.

Of course, this doesn’t establish how many insects a human is worth. But it does establish there is some quantity of insects’ interests that can outweigh a humans’ interest. For more on this kind of argument, see here and here.

The same kind of logic was offered by other Rationalists for shrimp. One, James Miller, a professor of economics, wrote

Let me defend effective altruists’ concern for shrimp welfare. We don’t know whether shrimp are conscious. But if they are conscious and can feel pain, we should be willing to spend resources to reduce the suffering we inflict on them. We don’t need certainty to justify spending resources to reduce the risk that we’re torturing conscious beings. Yes, reducing this to math can yield absurd conclusions about, say, how many babies we should sacrifice to spare how many shrimp from suffering. But any well-defined moral system can lead to troubling conclusions, and that doesn’t excuse cruelty to beings that may be conscious nor justify not thinking carefully about moral choices.

In my ongoing efforts to brighten the world through the telling of hilarious jokes, I responded to him “We need to kill all the whales to save the shrimp.”

But I had not reckoned with the full power of logic, and so was somewhat startled when Miller responded this way to my quip:

Unironically that is something we should consider, although as the shrimp are probably in a Malthusian environment, we have to consider the marginal implications of killing all the whales on the shrimp.

All Rationalists suffer from Humor Deficit Disorder, just like Mr Spock. To laugh is not logical. Logic is serious business. We’re trying to minimize pain in the universe, mister, so don’t get in our way by distracting us with frivolities.

At any rate, I admitted I did not anticipate Miller’s response, but many others replied to me that they had (and I believe them). One fellow was even more logical than Miller, and carried through both Bulldog’s and Miller’s logical argument to its, well, logical conclusion:

Have you tried proposing the heat death of the universe as solution to all possible moral crises?

And he may be on to something there, because I reminded him that this solution was already thought of: “But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. The earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

Stay reasonable, not logical, my friends.

Bonus: As I finished this I saw this NY Post article: “Father of AI-doomer ideology Effective Altruism backed bestiality, said newborn baby worth less than a hog“.

The nutty professor dubbed the “father” of effective altruism (EA), the theory beloved by AI doomers who want the power to police the technology, expressed support for bestiality and said the life of a newborn baby is worth less than a chimp’s or a hog’s.

Peter Singer is an Australian philosopher and bioethicist who argues that killing disabled infants is not morally wrong, that sex with animals is preferable to raising them for food and that even necrophilia can be moral.

Since the 1970s, he has suggested rejecting traditional concepts of right and wrong and replacing morality solely by calculating and maximizing interests.

We’ll look at more of this later this week.

Video

All my work is free and user-supported. Here’s how to help:


Discover more from William M. Briggs

Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

8 Comments

  1. NLR

    If the problem was simply that they were logical but not reasonable, that would not be great. But the real issue is that many of these individuals and seemingly all with any power or influence are not in good faith. And this especially applies to those who work in or near Silicon Valley. They will write a 20,000 word essay about the ethics of eating shrimp, but their day job is helping totalitarians pursue their goals and they don’t care. These people’s actual ethics are “if me and my friends get our paychecks on time, who cares what happens to the rest of the world”.

    And it doesn’t matter what they say or how often they say it or how verbosely they say it, their actions have to show it. What about all those people who have lost jobs to so-called AI? Have any ethical altruists or rationalists or whatever they want to call themselves offered to hire them? Have they given money to help those people? The most they can come up with is some totalitarian garbage like UBI.

    What about all the people whose jobs have been outsourced to other countries? Have they offered to hire them? Have they offered any money for them? No, why should they, that’s just the inevitable, impersonal forces of economics. Except that these guys are always trying to optimize their own paychecks.

    I don’t know about the Bentham’s Bulldog guy, there may be some people who subscribe to this stuff who are just in it for the ideas, so I can’t say everyone is like that. But I’ll put it this way, considering all of the negative effects of the changes in technology and society from the turn of the millennium on, if this is the best these guys can do to mitigate it, then what good are they?

  2. McChuck

    Those who lack faith (belief) in God will believe in anything.
    Atheism is, itself, a religion, and as such under our Constitution, must not be placed before other religions.

  3. Cary Cotterman

    Any giant ant who will eat Joan Collins is worth at least his weight in humans.

  4. Brian (bulaoren)

    While in university, I took a class called “Symbolic Logic”. Logic was then taught through the Philosophy department, which was in the process of succumbing to “Deconstructionism”.
    Deconstruction has proven to be a sort of cognitive entropy virus, a universal solvent that unmakes everything in it’s path.
    How can we expect Logic to retain it’s integrity?

  5. We should all re-read our Ted Kaczynski materials. A man ahead of his time.

  6. Rob Potter

    Asimov’s robot stories are the best example that an artificial intelligence is not intelligence. They were a fabulous way for Asimov to explore human psychology by contrasting it with a programmed machine – showing the limitations of the machine. Each of the short stories is basically an example of a robot going wrong and the need for a human to intervene.

    But a better example in the SciFi literature for what you are discussing here, Matt, comes from Frank Herbert in Dune. The lack of thinking machines has led to the elevation of some highly logical humans – mentats – to do this kind of logical analysis. And when one mentat is captured, he is used by his captor by strictly controlling the information the mentat is supplied with. Control the input and you control the output. Models all the way down.

  7. John M

    Thanks for reminding me of that classic Klingon joke!

  8. Philip Rogan

    Effective Altruism is something else I’ve never hard of but apparently has been infecting academic circles for decades.

    I took a quick look on Wikipedia (I know, I know) for a general description of EA and came across the following. It’s short quote taken slightly out of context, but eye-opening (at least to me).

    “In response to a version of Singer’s drowning child analogy,[48] philosopher Kwame Anthony Appiah in 2006 asked whether the most effective action of a man in an expensive suit, confronted with a drowning child, would not be to save the child and ruin his suit—but rather, sell the suit and donate the proceeds to charity.[49][50] Appiah believed that he “should save the drowning child and ruin my suit”.[49] In a 2015 debate, when presented with a similar scenario of either saving a child from a burning building or saving a Picasso painting to sell and donate the proceeds to charity, MacAskill responded that the effective altruist should save and sell the Picasso.”

    This makes me think that it’s less Effective Altruism and more like Suicidal Altruism.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *