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Vatican Nixes Gay Unions: The Usual Meltdown Ensues

In a surprise move, the Vatican, with Francis’s approval, answered “negative” to the question “Does the Church have the power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex?”

First, the official reasons for this commonsense answer, and then some of the reactions.

Consequently, in order to conform with the nature of sacramentals, when a blessing is invoked on particular human relationships, in addition to the right intention of those who participate, it is necessary that what is blessed be objectively and positively ordered to receive and express grace, according to the designs of God inscribed in creation, and fully revealed by Christ the Lord. Therefore, only those realities which are in themselves ordered to serve those ends are congruent with the essence of the blessing imparted by the Church.

For this reason, it is not licit to impart a blessing on relationships, or partnerships, even stable, that involve sexual activity outside of marriage (i.e., outside the indissoluble union of a man and a woman open in itself to the transmission of life), as is the case of the unions between persons of the same sex[6]…

Furthermore, since blessings on persons are in relationship with the sacraments, the blessing of homosexual unions cannot be considered licit. This is because they would constitute a certain imitation or analogue of the nuptial blessing…

For the above mentioned reasons, the Church does not have, and cannot have, the power to bless unions of persons of the same sex in the sense intended above.

The kicker was this: “[God] does not and cannot bless sin”. Which, though obvious, caused shrieks of horror.

This changes no understanding or teaching of the Church. It shocks the sensibilities of those men in the Church who are “oriented” towards men and boys who are always looking for loopholes into which to insert their sodomy. But this official answer is, after all, on the order of “sun rises in the east”.

Which means the reactions to the news were more about the expectations of those receiving it than the Church’s perpetual teaching.

Now the reporting of the news, if you can believe it, was mostly straight, with very little hyperbole. There is no pun: because there are no such things as “straights”, no, nor “gays”. You are not your sexual desire. Which is why there cannot be same-sex “marriages”.

One headline will suffice: In setback for gay Catholics, Vatican says church cannot bless same-sex unions

In some countries, such as the United States and Germany, parishes and ministers have begun blessing same-sex unions in lieu of marriage, and there have been calls for bishops to de facto institutionalise these…

Francis DeBernardo, executive director of the gay Catholics group New Ways Ministry, said “It is not surprising, but still disappointing, that the Vatican has responded ‘no’.”

Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of DignityUSA, which also supports gays in the Church, said the denial “will exacerbate the pain and anger of LGBTQI Catholics and our families” and hurt “couples who live deeply loving and committed relationships”…

Churches in Africa and Asia also strongly oppose gay marriage. Conservatives have warned that debates on homosexuality have spawned debilitating divisions in other Christian Churches, such as the Anglican communion.

The heresies of the faithless are noted. The obligatory quotes from the “oriented” crowd are there, showing they are still oblivious to God’s word on the subject. There even details from those in uncriticizable demographics in far off lands. Couldn’t really hope for a better report from today’s media.

Good questions were asked about the Vatican move, like this one from Elton John.

The answer is The Lavender Mafia, those “oriented” men spoken of earlier, whose latest hopes have been dashed.

Putting morality, including such things as defining matrimony, to vote is one of the most frightening things about democracies.

For when they go mad, Reality becomes illegal. For instance:

Bestiality, incidentally, is also legal in several countries.

Not surprisingly, some tied the Vatican’s decision as caused by, yes, “white supremacy“. Which shows you the debased still acknowledge demons, though they’ve identified the wrong ones.

Many people tried comedy, wondering about the altar boys diddled by the priests “oriented” that way. These jokes all died aborning, because they imply these critics would therefore be for these practices if same-sex blessings were allowed.

The other thrust was to insist Buddy Jesus is for sodomy, because he never said he was against it. Old Testament angry God the Father was against it, they admit. But He was against it before the Current Year.

These people never seem to remember the Trinity, that Father-Son-Holy Ghost is God, and that what one says, God says. And it’s clear God says no.

I originally thought Fr James Martin, who loves all forms of sodomy, was taking the news well. No public tears or hysteria, words about change is still possible, etc. But when I tweeted what’s below to him, he blocked me on Twitter. The poor dear.

“Lavender Tours has announced that because of this recent Vatican announcement, the Holy Land tour of the Sodom & Gomorrah sites has been canceled.

Full refunds will be issued.”

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  1. Logic will never sink in. I totally agree with Elton John that is blatant hypocrisy. I enjoyed the movie but the Catholic Church should not have gotten involved considering their correct stance on the subject per the Bible. I support people of these alternate lifestyles but don’t think that the church at any level should be involved in backing the unions that should be left to the governments.

  2. “Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of DignityUSA, which also supports gays in the Church, said the denial “will exacerbate the pain and anger of LGBTQI Catholics and our families” and hurt “couples who live deeply loving and committed relationships”…”
    The same is true of denying pedophiles their children (thankfully, Joe Biden has increased sex trafficking 100 fold in a mere two months), beastiality, polygamy and every imaginable sexual attraction. ANY denial of sinful, Satanic behavior exacerbates pain. IT’S SUPPOSED TO. A LOT. SIN is supposed to feel really good while ushering in hell on earth. That’s its purpose and many of you are all for it. Okay, but when all hell breaks loose, you did not want any boundaries except the silly ones YOU personally liked. So learn to love hell on earth. You begged for it.

    WE LIVE IN SODON AND GOMORRAH. There are no tours, its our proud and evil life.

    I give the Pope six months before he caves and homosex is part of the Catholic Church. He hates God and humanity, though he does love money.

  3. Pete and Chasten have their priorities “straight”

    Register for the fancy sheets and wine glasses.
    (What parent would name their kid Chasten?
    Yeah … I’m sure they were thinking it a clever way to spell Jason, but, come on!)

  4. Dowry, alimony, child support, all tipped the scales to empower women after
    six thousand years of subjugation now we have men in women’s sports sharing their
    locker rooms. This sort of irony is lost on female progressives who support gay marriage.
    What’s next? .. flight suits for pregnant pilots, presumably adaptive to every stage of
    pregnancy. But maybe not and we’ll see monthly iterations of flight suits on a scale
    no one could imagine.

  5. As this line from the Reuters article indicates – “In some countries, such as the United States and Germany, parishes and ministers have begun blessing same-sex unions in lieu of marriage…” – it’s a measure of how far gone so many nominal Catholics, even priests and bishops, are these days that such a clarification, which should have been self-evident to all, had to even be issued by the Vatican. Though I can see why Francis’ history of general fecklessness and sloppiness in certain off-the cuff remarks in the past gave the liberals hope of an official change. Even a bad Pope like Francis was thankfully saved by the Holy Spirit from going off the deep end on an issue like this.

    And it’s amazing how many non-Catholics or ex-Catholics seem so worked-up about the Church actually just re-affirming its traditional understanding of the sacrament of marriage (and that of really all of human civilization until about 5 minutes ago). Why do they care so much about the beliefs of the Church they have either left or never were members of in the first place? There are some interesting theories…

    As for those angry but still nominally calling themselves Catholic, like the US Apostate-in-Chief Joe Biden, James Martin, Mayor Buttplug and friend, etc…Don’t like what the Church teaches? Fine…leave already (those like Joe Biden, Pelosi, etc. who openly and flagrantly flout Church teaching in the public policies they advocate should have long ago been ex-communicated anyway – and may technically be, latae sentenitiae, though spineless milquetoast Bishops fear liberal media more than God if they were to denounce them or deny them Communion).

    “…The Vatican doesn’t get to define marriage, let alone morality. https://t.co/DW9Pnj8vif — Rob Humble”
    Well, actually, it does…kind of part and parcel of the Church’s mission for 2000 years…Tu es Petrus, the Keys and all that… Another one worked-up about the beliefs of a Church he’s left anyway. Funny how the Church supposedly can’t “define” marriage, but this “Humble” Clown apparently thinks it perfectly acceptable for 5 American political-appointee judges – in the face of all cultural, legal, and Constitutional tradition – to do so, provided their opinion accords with Mr. Humble’s au courant Leftism.

    Hun: Have you read Rachel Fulton Brown’s book “Milo Chronicles,” or her more recent interviews with him or articles in the last 18 months or so since that book came out? Gives a good insight into what he’s always really been about as opposed to the media caricature of him. We can only hope he is sincere and successful in his efforts to convert from his former lifestyle (He’s always been a Catholic – however flawed in practice as most of us are – so it’s not a question of “conversion” in that sense); it’s a shame so many, even Catholics, have been so uncharitable in response to his recent announcement and seem to cling to the slanderous caricature of him from years ago (i.e. the absurd claim that he supported paedophilia, etc.) when he was “cancelled” even by people supposedly on the “right” (normie-cons like those at NRO, TAC, etc).

    There a good interview with Milo here from just last week with John-Henry Westen of Lifesite News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BNZbEOwi7w

  6. Elton John: “How can the Vatican refuse to bless gay marriages because they “are sin”, yet happily make a profit from investing millions in “Rocketman” – a film which celebrates my finding happiness from my marriage to David?? #hypocrisy”

    Yes, Mr. John is right, it was a dreadful mistake and a sin for the Vatican to invest in “Rocketman.”

  7. From the article: “The other thrust was to insist Buddy Jesus is for sodomy, because he never said he was against it. Old Testament angry God the Father was against it, they admit. But He was against it before the Current Year.”

    The following from the New Testament is Jesus, the Son of God, clearly stating that God created human beings male and female, and also stating clearly, the only sexual relationship human beings are to have.

    Jesus did speak to God’s creation of human sexuality: “4And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, 5and said, ‘FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND HIS MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH…” Matthew 19: 4-5.

    True, people can reinterpret the meaning of words, as the lovely word “gay” in relation to flowers and lightheartedness, has been overtaken by the stolen usage to now refer to people who are attracted sexually to the same sex. Just so, some might say, that husband and wife can refer to a same sex couple in which one refers to the other as husband or wife, though now it is more common to say husband and husband, and wife and wife.

    But, when referring to ancient texts, the meaning of the words are to be what they meant then, and in this case, referring to the quote from the Bible, husband means the male and wife means the female.

    The Catholic Church has been very derelict in its shepherding of the people who find themselves attracted sexually to people of the same sex, in that the causes are clearly known, as temptations from the devil, being groomed from childhood, with lack of fathering, and yet the JPII Catechism says the cause is unknown and so just live chastely, which we are all to do, and live a life of prayer.

    How is it and why is it, that so many of the hierarchy in charge are not seeking God as to what He would have them do to free those attracted in this way, so that those so attracted can freely live the heterosexuality in which they were created.

    Some say, well it is some people’s cross to suffer such attractions, but God says Free My People. You I have appointed as My Shepherds. Do your duty by the power of My Holy Spirit. Make use of the gifts which I gave to you at your ordination. Believe My Word where it speaks of the gifts which I gave to My Church.

    “4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. 7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing, by the one Spirit, and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills. 1 Corinthians 12: 4-11.

    God bless, C-Marie

  8. “Rob Humble”

    Rob Humble is the new Morality Czar. His Humbleness defines right and wrong. Only a man of such spotless humility is qualified to instruct God Himself, for he has conquered Pride. Rob Humble is the the One we have been waiting for. We are so blessed.

  9. To be fair to the Rocketman thing, and Elton is right to bring it up, it wouldn’t surprise me if the only reason that happened is because the Vatican, like most of us, has mutual fund things where we blindly invest in a fund and trust the banker guy to water it so that it grows, and we don’t pay attention to where the heck any of it is going.

    One of those things we’re trapped into doing because we can’t just save anything, because money-printing and inflation.

    But little doubt the Lavender Mafia is buggering things up and down the place, so who knows? But those guys mostly pilfer to buy things for themselves, notably cocaine. So I doubt they’re really pouring money into Elton John’s biopics and probably just invested in ‘movie company’ the same way the German Bishops own a publishing house that puts out porn.

    The only telling thing is what they do once they discover it, or when the news reaches us before them. Whichever’s first.

  10. @Hun: I’m praying for Milo to hold to his pledge of chaste living.
    @Sheri: The Catholic Church does not belong to Papa Fran. She is the Bride of Christ, and so belongs to God, and nothing and nobody can stop Him from protecting her doctrines.

  11. I can’t help wondering what his angle is because you know the question “Is the Pope Catholic? is no longer rhetorical. Maybe he’s trying to get Sauron’s Army activated and unified against the Church. But whatever reason it is it’s not because he cares about the sacraments or the church or believes that Jesus died on the cross for his sins

  12. In several countries not only is bestiality legal but also flagellation and necrophilia. I tried to get it it banned but I got nowhere. It’s like flogging a dead horse!

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