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America Is A Conquered Country Which Flies A Foreign Flag

It’s a practice as ancient as warfare itself. The victor tears down the enemy’s totem and replaces it with his own. How many battles have we read about in which the Romans fought merely to win back Eagles they had lost in earlier clashes? Who doesn’t know that photo of Iwo Jima? I don’t even have to tell you which one.

(In a coincidence, I saw this tweet while writing this.)

Totems are important, they become their symbol, which is why we have fights over flag burning. The same who would burn the Stars & Stripe would arrest you for “hate speech” for burning this.

The Pervert Pennant, a.k.a. the Rainbow Penetration, is hoisted and the Stars & Stripes lowered in recognition of the Force of Darkness’s victory over America. To be fair, though, without sodomy and blackmail, where would the FBI be?

The Rainbow Penetration flies high above US Embassies the world over. That is, at least in those countries that have also been conquered. Which is now most of them.

It’s not only the USA that has been conquered. Most of the West has been swept away. We all saw the Prime Minister of the Netherlands shed tears last week when he listened to another man tell of his struggles to tell the world how much he enjoys sodomy.

The tears were not so much in happiness, but in anger at Hungary, which, so far, has refused to fly the Rainbow Penetration. Rutte was using his tears as a weapon. This makes good military sense, since it was tears that carried the day elsewhere. The effeminate have no weapon against them.

This athlete Gwen Barry, hideous as a gargoyle and as mean spirited, won some contest while representing, people thought, the once United States. One story summarized her behavior, “As the national anthem played while she was on the podium, she turned away from the flag to face the stands. She then put a T-shirt over her head that said ‘Activist Athlete.'”

After she was called out, she rushed to use the I’m Black Therefore A Victim defense. She rejects the Stars & Stripes, saying it does not represent her.

Overflowing prideful from the NYC Pride parade tore down American flags from Washington Square vendors, demanding they fly the Rainbow Penetration instead.

The mayhem erupted Sunday night as the rowdy revelers — fresh off Pride Parade celebrations earlier in the day — demanded Abdo Mansour replace his American flag with a Pride flag, he recalled.

“They said, ‘Take that f–ing flag down. Why don’t you put up my flag?’” Mansour said. “And they broke my American flag.”

“I called the cops. They didn’t want to come,” he said. “The cops stayed right there.”

The cops only keep the law of the rulers, and no other law.

California, a bastion of our oligarchic overlords, is barring its employees from venturing into enemy-occupied territories. Even though those territories have been conquered themselves, they retain too many of the vanquished mistakenly left alive.

California is adding Florida and four other states to its official travel ban list after Attorney General Rob Bonta said Monday the states passed anti-LGBTQ laws that are “directly targeting transgender youth.”

The announcement, which came at a press conference on the 52nd anniversary of the Stonewall Riots, means that California is now banning state-funded travel to 17 U.S. states based on a 2016 law. Bonta announced that Arkansas, Montana, North Dakota and West Virginia are joining Florida as the newest states on the list.

“California must take action to avoid supporting or financing discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people,” Bonta said.

About other people, California doesn’t care.

California’s list is important, because it is used by the elite to plan their next campaigns. The states which still have some based peoples: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and West Virginia.

Citizens in those states should gird their loins—literally. The people who fly the Rainbow Penetration take Pride in going after loins.

Now you will have seen (I owe the image in today’s post to Mencius Moldbugman) the Pervert Pennant has become encrusted with symbols over the years. It used to be a plain rainbow, but now has black and brown stripes, which stand for black and brown peoples. Which implies elites think these folks are the same, in some sense, as lesbians, homosexuals, and transgenders. Curious.

Anyway, many are asking what the circle in the modified flag means. I’m not the only one to have noticed it must represent Goatsee. MM’s rendition of the flag is in honor of this. Look it up, but don’t do it at work or when the kids are around. It’s the next logical step to the ever-growing LGBTQWERTY acronym.

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  1. The “tyranny of the aberrant” is not inexorable. Here in the mud, resistance to it is palpable.

  2. California is now banning state-funded travel to 17 U.S. states

    Bet those states are happy about Californians staying home.

  3. It is the same old perverted story – “there is nothing new under the sun”: There are ways to fix this – just like Chicago could be cleaned up – however the effeminate will not do it – As the old saying goes – “Old fashion ways and men make Rome strong.”

    “But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!”

    So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. “Please, my brothers,” he begged, “don’t do such a wicked thing. Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection. “Stand back!” they shouted. “This fellow came to town as an outsider, and now he’s acting like our judge! We’ll treat you far worse than those other men!” And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door.” Genesis 19

    What anger God must have for us that we are being ruled by the perverted – go to confession.

  4. DAV: Agreed. Too bad Wyoming will never make that list. I’d love it to be included in those excluded.

    There is ZERO reason to believe an agency run by a cross-dressing, blackmailing pervert would suddenly change. People are so stupid in this. Nothing is different, except our totally unrealistic expectations (and the population has increased). FDR was elected by hiding the truth about who he was. Clinton had FBI files on everyone. The only difference is parents found out, via covid, that Jr. is being recruited to change sex and have sex at age 11 (or less) at school and are at least pretending to be shocked. Lazy parents slapped in the face with reality……

    Law enforcement always had a large number of closet pedophiles and gays. Again, no change there. They just don’t show up for much of anything anymore.

    We WILL, and virtually have, legalized pedophilia. So many on the left are partakers it WILL happen. This was probably the goal all along, plus the destruction of society. Anarchy requires a “savior” and the left is there to provide the dictator and the death. All of this came about when families were destroyed and no one gave a damn about kids, did not love them except as tools to welfare and press coverage in the case of their death. A country that hates its children or is too lazy to raise them goes to hell, literally. This is the American CHOICE. American, land of the lazy and perverted. New motto.

  5. She then put a T-shirt over her head that said ‘Activist Athlete.’”

    Finally, talking T shirts.

    It would be a riot (prolly literally) were some radical Christian to begun flying a flag that read Judges 19:22 God teaches that sodomites are the sons of Belial (Satan).

  6. Re: Goatse

    Good advice:

    “That’s enough, it’s a horrible thing, it’s disgusting, and if you don’t know what I’m talking about then I suggest you DON’T go looking for an answer.”

  7. Jeff J

    Why did you leave out verse 8?

    6 Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him, 7 and said, “I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. 8 Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.” 9 But they said, “Stand back!” And they said, “This fellow came to sojourn, and he has become the judge! Now we will deal worse with you than with them.” Then they pressed hard against the man Lot, and drew near to break the door down.

    A fairly wicked edit … if you don’t like what it says, find out why it’s there, don’t omit it.

    Remember Lot became the “father” of the enemy of the “people” … that would be a good place to start

  8. Jeff j

    Apologies … my eyes played tricks with me … you didn’t edit it …

    really sorry

  9. “Citizens in those states should gird their loins—literally. The people who fly the Rainbow Penetration take Pride in going after loins.” HA HA HA — funny, in a very grim way.

    I find it striking that this country once thought everyone of my faith would ultimately answer to a foreign flag. But while people fly many non-state flags to show their support for everything from sports teams to (yes) the Catholic Church, no one expects the things most flags support to mean the people flying them obey different rules. Not so this one. People are afraid to be seen as not honoring it. In many places, if a business doesn’t fly a rainbow flag or at least have one in the window, people will demand to know why not, with the demand an implicit threat to protest.

  10. Re : Tweets by MoldBugMan

    https://twitter.com/moldbugman

    Sometimes you have to move back from the image to see it

    Some of his images ARE enhanced aren’t they?

    At first, for Zelda 3: Link to the Past, having played the game, I thought of something else on the topic of Goatse

    That really is one of the better mazes I’ve seen … were those lines intentionally darkened? (Still doesn’t make it the best goatsse.

  11. Of course it isn’t just the U.S. flying a foreign flag, and it isn’t just California practicing Rainbow Fascism.

    In the dominant countries of the European Union, children are now, openly, prey:

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2021/june/dutch-leader-says-hungary-must-leave-eu-over-anti-lgbtq-law-vows-to-bring-hungary-to-its-knees

    “Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said Hungary “must leave” the European Union or reverse a new bill banning content that advocates LGBTQ for anyone under 18-years-old.

    “Earlier this month, Hungary’s parliament passed legislation forbidding all educational materials and programs for children that promoted homosexuality and gender reassignment.

    “Viktor Orban, the Hungarian prime minister, said the measure was about ‘defending the rights of the kids and the parents.’

    “Even though the EU cannot force a country to leave, taking a “step by step” approach could produce the intended effect, Rutte told reporters. “My goal is to bring Hungary to its knees on this issue,” he said.”

    ‘On our knees’, is the preferred position for the Rainbow Penetration. As for our children, or at least the ones who make it out of the womb alive…they’ll be brought to their knees early on, beginning with “universal pre-school” or “early childhood education” or whatever they’re calling grooming and indoctrination programs these days.

    Sheri is right. Parents are 100% complicit in all of this. They murder their own children, sell their live-born fetuses for grotesque scientific research (you’ve many tortured and dead babies to thank for your Vexxines) and they send their tiniest tots to be educated and formulated for “inclusive consumption”.

    Yum yum…evil monsters love to eat small children….have they banned Grimm Fairy Tales yet? It gives away their game.

  12. The Fairy Tale wake-up-moment for some parents will only come when, one-day-soon, a Yellow School Bus appears like a RAINBOW climbing the hill.

  13. Jeff Jorgensen,

    Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you

    Setting aside the fact that this story is obviously not true, I love the way in which Lot is cast as the hero despite offering his two teenage daughters to a rape-gang – what a truly incredible and selfless human being!

  14. America is conquered by buttflockers!? — but, but, but, how did that happen? It happened, my fellow Sodomites, because that snake whispered in our ears, “wouldn’t you like to dip your stick in that? — go on! — it’ll feel good, it’s not right to deny yourself pleasure ‘ol chap, you know that stuffy old morality is keeping you down, go on, and you’ll be like a god”! — and because the Fall impaired our moral sense and sin makes you stupid we fell for this lie, and not just the poopdicks, but the great mass of us embarked on an orgy of fornication, adultery, abortion, contraception, divorce, sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll, which demoralized us, and then we woke up one day to Briggs informing us we’d been conquered and our new flag is a rectal doughnut, rampant, on a rainbow field, and now we’re going to get flocked, good and hard. Hey! — we’re Americans, that’s not supposed to happen to us, we’re number one! Sorry charlie, now we’re number two.

    Been on a Mike Jones jag here, a trilogy; “Degenerate Moderns; Modernity as Rationalized Sexual Misbehavior”, “Living Machines: Modern Architecture and the Rationalization of Sexual Misbehavior”, and “Dionysus Rising: The Birth of the Cultural Revolution out of the Spirit of Music”. Jones, who didn’t listen to the snake’s sweet hissings but rather stayed on the straight and narrow of Catholicism while everyone else was out partying, develops in these three books the idea that the entire modern project springs from the attempt to create a world where you can stick your wick in anything you fancy, guilt free. He illuminates the personal lives of some of modernity’s founders in this light; Wagner, Freud, Gropius, Picasso, Mead, Kinsey — showing how a desire for “free love” was a prime motivator in their work. Not to be reductionist about it, there are other sins, but this one is so powerful and common it’s being used as the main weapon against us, hence the sodomite flag being raised over conquered America.

  15. The FBI was founded by a cross dresser who had as his second in command his long time male “companion”.
    They are just getting back to their roots.

  16. So less Californians will be coming to Florida, I consider that a feature not a bug.

  17. Swordfish

    The story of Lot and his daughters (disregarding Lot’s wife) is a very complicated and complex story. I ran into the dilemma through Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land”. I stumbled, tripped and almost fell. When you’re a kid, about the only thing you hear or remember about Lot is his wife.

  18. The reason for the black and brown on the occupier’s flag is very simple: the occupiers work by convincing their allies that they are victims and uniquely entitled to “finally” getting recognition. Leftist blacks in particular would never remain happy in being “ignored” due to the alphabet people community getting focused on; witness how the recent “Juneteenth” holiday was treated as though it was the first time that blacks ever had anything done for them.

    Of course, China is all on board this woke ideology, though only so far as it benefits China. Anyone working in academia will have encountered the CCP loyalist who is very eager to talk about how “Asians” are being discriminated against, though strangely “Asians” never seems to include the Japanese or South Koreans. Expect red and yellow to be added to the flag to represent “Asians.” Then that stripe will slowly be made larger until we are just flying the CCP flag.

  19. The old gods are alive and well. Goatsee has become impatient and will wait no longer. He and his sister Mammon (the hoar) will make the followers of Yahweh pay for the last 2000 years.

    The first lie was Vatican II, the next was “marriage”. Since that went so well the old gods were emboldened to roll out the hate of humanity (climate hysteria) and genital mutilation (trans) and we bought those obviously lies “hook, line and sinker”.

    It’s quite disconcerting to come to the realization that I may, in fact, see the anti-Christ.

  20. Why is pride the only sin that gets a month? Shouldn’t we also have a greed month, an envy month? Lust month might actually be kind of fun.

  21. As Pope Francis recently reaffirmed, communion should be viewed “not as a prize for the perfect, but as a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.

    ++++++++++++++++++
    1 Corinth. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. 24And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. 25In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me. 26For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come.

    27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.

    ++++++++++++++++

    Far from being a medicine or nourishment to a man like Biden, it is a spiritual poison which will ineluctably increase his suffering in Hell if he does not repent of his heresies and sins before death.

    One could argue, objectively, that the black Prelate, Wilton Archbishop Gregory, is practicing the severest form of racial hatred in his sacramental retribution against a white man of power and privilege because he is encouraging him to eat and drink judgement unto himself.

  22. Archeological evidence supports the biblical account of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Here’s one article published in Forbes, in 2018. There are others.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2018/12/04/new-science-suggests-biblical-city-of-sodom-was-smote-by-an-exploding-meteor/?sh=34a187925c67

    “New research finds that a powerful airburst from a meteor colliding with the atmosphere may have wiped out a Bronze Age civilization along the north side of the Dead Sea some 3,700 years ago.  While the findings come from the excavation of the Tall el-Hammam archaeological site in Jordan, many believe that the same place was once known as Sodom.

    “Yes, as in Sodom and Gomorrah from the Bible, Torah and Quran – the cities of sin supposedly destroyed with brimstone and fire sent from God.

    “Archaeologist Phillip J. Silvia of Trinity Southwest University in Albuquerque has been working with a team that has been excavating the site for over 13 years and presented their report at the annual meeting of the American Schools of Oriental Research last month.

    “Samples from the site show that an extremely hot, explosive event leveled an area of almost 200 square miles including the Middle Ghor – a circular plain to the north of the Dead Sea, ”…not only wiping out 100 percent of the Middle Bronze Age cities and towns, but also stripping agricultural soils from once-fertile fields,” reads the abstract from the conference presentation.

    “The researchers theorize that the intense shockwaves from the blast may have also covered the area “with a super-heated brine of Dead Sea anhydride salts.”

    “The team also says that archaeological evidence shows it took at least six centuries for the region to recover and for civilization to return, thanks to the contamination and destruction of the soil.”

    Of course, naysayers likely claim the biblical story, handed down for thousands of years, was “made up” to account for the destruction caused by the meteor. Fair enough. But they cannot rightly say, we do not have evidence on our side, for the biblical account.

    After all, why wouldn’t God use a meteor, to rain down fire and brimstone? It appears to be quite effective, when carried out at the proper atmospheric height.

  23. “The announcement, which came at a press conference on the 52nd anniversary of the Stonewall Riots, means that California is now banning state-funded travel to 17 U.S. states based on a 2016 law. Bonta announced that Arkansas, Montana, North Dakota and West Virginia are joining Florida as the newest states on the list.”

    Let’s just cut to the chase: make it 49 states and wall off California. We can send Snake Pliskin in to check on them in 20 years or so.

  24. Every decent person of goodwill needs to commit themselves to defending all and any children from these perverts and pedophiles as long as we draw breath. Pray, and act. What they do to adults is one thing, to children, another. That is a worthy hill to die on.

  25. Ann Cherry,

    Archeological evidence supports the biblical account of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    I had a look at that article. It describes a Tunguska-like airburst destroying 200 square miles, so that clearly doesn’t fit with the biblical story, and I don’t recall anyone near Tunguska being turned into a pillar of salt. If this event was an airburst, that is completely consistent with it being natural (like Tunguska) and completely inconsistent with it being supernatural. Sorry!

  26. Evangeline,

    Every decent person of goodwill needs to commit themselves to defending all and any children from these perverts and pedophiles as long as we draw breath.

    Considering the recent unearthing of mass graves at Catholic Schools in Canada, I thought you were talking about Catholics for a minute.

  27. Swordfish, you claim that God cannot, or would not, send a meteor to rain down fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gommorah, because these types of events (also) occur “naturally’?

    [Reminds me of the joke where the guy prays for rescue, and God says “well, I sent you a helicopter….”]

    Who do you think created and holds together the natural world? Oh…right….it created itself and operates on auto-pilot (the biggest miracle of all) with some help from the Sierra Club, of course.

    You imply that IF an event CAN occur “naturally” (what we might call, within God’s permissive will) it therefore cannot ever be ‘supernatural” ie “above nature” or within God’s active will). Whether or not one believes in God, does that pass the logic test?

    Why wouldn’t God send a meteor? Meteors are highly effective for quickly “wiping the slate clean”… as the dinosaurs would attest. So defend your own statements, Swordfish:

    Why doesn’t an airburst that destroyed 200 square miles, and turned the ground to anhydrous salts, barren for centuries thereafter, fit with the biblical story of God’s destruction of Sodom and Gommorah?

    In the biblical account, Lot’s wife “looked back” and was turned Into a pillar of salt. You claim that because nobody was turned into a pillar of salt (as far as you know) at a totally different event and location (a remote area of Siberia, where allegedly only three people died), it could not possibly have happened to Lot’s wife at Sodom and Gommorah? Why not?

    As for your prior comment about Lot’s offer to hand over his virgin daughters instead of his guests, who were God’s own angels, to the sexual predators trying to break down his door….that is a fair criticism; but consider that people hand over their children to others for defilement every day, more so now than ever.

    The incident should be understood in the context of the scriptural story: These townspeople of Sodom and Gommorah were so depraved that they would break down Lot’s door and rape God’s own angels. To you, and to some, this story shows Lot’s callousness towards his own daughters; consider, instead, that the story shows his absolute desperation, in the urgency of the moment, to protect his holy guests from defilement.

    Yes, we know, some people think “love is love” and anal “sex” is the highest form of love to the debased. But since these same people claim to “follow the science”….let’s see where the science of anal “sex” actually leads: to almost a million deaths per year, worldwide, from AIDS; to a lifetime of incurable disease for tens of millions more; and to an average life-span for the homosexual male, of less than sixty years.

    Why? Set aside the biblical story, and look at the actual science of anal “sex’: one man shoves his erect penis, or some other implement, up the feces-laden descending colon of another man or boy (or, less often, a female), and uses it as a vector for masturbatory friction. This friction movement creates minuscule tears in surface of the colon, allowing bacteria and viruses to directly enter the blood stream of the person whose anus and colon are being abraded, also getting the sewage-pipe-like contents such as e coli bacteria, and possibly other bad things, like HIV, all over the anus-penetrator’s penis, fingers, and mouth. Does that gross you out? It should.

    The descending colon was not designed for sexual penetration, and using it for such creates death and destruction. That might be the take-away from the story of Sodom and Gommorah, for those inside and outside the Church who insist the story is a myth. (Or, absurdly, that it was about a “lack of hospitality.” Nice try.)

    For those of us more scientific-minded, we recognize archeological evidence for what it is, and have the sense of wonder, and the intelligence, to at least say “Wow.”

    We see that God’s law is not divorced from “natural law” but one and the same, and that we violate these laws at our own risk and peril.

    Go ahead, salute the Rainbow Penetration, and force others to do the same. Like spoiled children everywhere, you might also try holding your breath until you turn blue; your feelings and temper tantrums, if not your laws and flags, will turn that human sewage pipe you crave, into your own personal Love Canal. It’s the Rainbow alchemy, and therefore above the natural law.

  28. Also, Swordfish, re: your “too clever by half” remark to Evangeline, those Canadian schools were government schools, some of which were operated by Catholics, some by others, but all funded and supervised but the Canadian government. Mass graves of children might indicate mass disease events such as small pox, typhoid or cholera.

    Abuse of children takes place when there’s access to children, and nowhere is there more abuse of children, outside of the family, than in government-run schools. That’s just a statistical fact. Nevertheless, given your personal animus towards Christians, perhaps you can use your “Vexxine Passport” to go into Canada and help them burn down some more churches and arrest a few more pastors.

    Meanwhile, those of us who’ve actually studied history, know that atheistic communism, highly regarded by most Rainbow people, killed over 100 million people in the last century alone, many of them children.

  29. God does not take action to cause destruction in human lives.
    God did the opposite. The New Testament is all about it.

    There is nothing innately Christian about expressing feelings os disgust for homosexuality. Males (in particular) of all persuasions can do disgust with the most vociferous fundamentalists.

    Jesus spoke about specifically not, calling down fire and brimstone in the NEW Testament.
    “you know not what spirit you are made of”

    Homosexuality did not make the grade when the Bible was being collated since natural law is where traditional catholic morals originate, (as opposed to Bible stories about a creepy man giving his daughters away). The very fact that the story made the grade is interesting. Someone else thought that such a bad trade off was worth a note in history.

  30. Joy,

    Confess that Jesus Christ was risen from the dead, sits at the right hand of the Father, and is Lord and Savior of the world.

  31. Rudolph,
    You’re from a different camp to me.
    Given your recent remarks to me I doubt very much that it matters to you what I believe.
    So I am suspicious that you even bother to ask. Call me old fashioned.

    England won the football 4 nill! *never doubted them.

    God loves everybody!
    God doesn’t hate anybody!
    God came to save all the world and this teaching and knowledge happened through his ‘son’ Jesus, who was born of Mary, who was a virgin, (probably) but I don’t believe that it is right to pray to Mary, unless s you want to, of course!

    God came to save all the world not just those who believe in him and it doesn’t matter if you don’t know Jesus or know of him in order to be saved.
    Your question presupposes that you think differently.
    I was confirmed at the age of fifteen.
    I don’t confess anything to strangers, least of al angry men on the internet.

    Anything else?

  32. I don’t confess anything to strangers, least of al angry men on the internet.

    You say this at the end of a post that does nothing but confess your beliefs.

    And yet you still cannot acknowledge Christ as Lord.

    So stop using His name.

  33. Rudolph:
    “confess” is the word of the inquisitor asking to hear about sin.
    We do not live in medieval times any more Rudolph.

    You asked for information about my beliefs, I gave just an inch, and as predictable you take a mile. The remark about telling you what I believe is a rational response to your request. Your answer is irrational.

    I don’t seek your approval, do your bidding, or need to know your belief. Those are pretty obvious, since you ask the question.

    Neither do you have the authority to tell anybody to stop
    “using His name”

    1 Peter 3: 15

    What you are actually doing, in common fashion, is making demands using a power that is not yours. Donning the persona of an authority. In this case, the ultimate authority.

  34. So Joy, to be clear, does not confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and God has raised Him from the dead, which I do confess.

    Joy, it is a very simple question. Is Jesus Christ Lord? Has God raised Him from the dead?

    She’s a witch. I suggest to all you stop responding to her long unhinged rants.

  35. I like Joy’s many, extremely long, and borderline unreadable rants on any ropic under the sun count as “giving an inch”, but asking if she actually believes Christ is King?

    How dare you, Sir!

  36. Your comments are an illustration as to why there should be better moderation on this site, which used to be a model of politeness and truthful interaction.

  37. What you seem to be calling witchcraft, is Anglican in origin… America was founded on the basis of those Christian values.

    No calm, sober Christian individual demands “spiritual ‘confession'” from others.

    God doesn’t ask for your outrage or your phoney respect whilst as you simultaneously, deliberately cauehurt . That behaviour is unChristian but straight out of the ‘Christian-fundamentalist’ rhetorical playbook.

    Much of this stuff wouldn’t and doesn’t work unless correspondence is written down. You wouldn’t get away with this in an ordinary debate or exercise in truth seeking of any kind.

    Why are you so angry? whoever you are?

  38. Here it is again with editing error removed in case you find it a bit difficult to comprehend:

    What you seem to be calling witchcraft, is Anglican in origin… America was founded on the basis of those Christian values.

    No calm, sober Christian individual demands “spiritual ‘confession’” from others.

    God doesn’t ask for your outrage or your phoney respect as you simultaneously, deliberately try to cause hurt . That behaviour is unChristian but straight out of the ‘Christian-fundamentalist’ rhetorical playbook.

    Much of this stuff wouldn’t and doesn’t work unless correspondence is written down. You wouldn’t get away with this in an ordinary debate or exercise in truth seeking of any kind.

    Why are you so angry? whoever you are?

  39. Smellyswordfish:

    Putting aside the fact that the story of Sodom and Gammorrah is true, and that someone like you who believes that nothing magically turned into fish that then turned into people should never be taken seriously about anything, I am taking precious time here to grant you the pearl of wisdom that the entirety of Christian Tradition, before Joy’s adulterous old-Testament-ommitted-for-convenience (lol) Anglicans came around, that Lot – has never been considered a ‘hero.’ I don’t know what Hollywood adaptations you get your opinions from, but it wasn’t us.

    Lot was stupid for first of all going to stay in a wicked city that everyone knew was New York bad, but hey, he ABSOLUTELY loved the big city night life and sharing a pint with celebrity sodomites and the modern art museums.

    Abraham pitied his poor relative and so asked God to spare his and his family’s lives. Lot, being a complete pussy and failure of a man, typical for a liberal city dweller, at least felt honor-bound enough to attempt to protect guests in his home (one of the few values of those times, like helping an old lady by offering her a seat on the bus, I’m sure that swordtrombonestorm considers that sexist, but I’m sticking by Tradition).

    Naturally he offers his daughters as any pro-choice supporter mught logically consider as a valid option, they, immoral harlots both, having attended public school and taught that incest is okay, and likely held on to their virginity for that dowry money, and knowing that even the most fornicating of city men would never make a whore a housewife. But the clearly sodomites weren’t biting, not realizing that Lot, being so loving towards them, knew who these two guests were and was trying to save the sodomites asses – well, what might be left of them anyway – and also preserve the big city lifestyle by keeping his guests safe and happy.

    So anyway one thing leads to another, the cities, liberal cesspools that they are, are destroyed, yes, by God, by supernatural means. Today, God has lots of nice Russian and Chinese missiles to work with. But if you’re lucky, He might do it just for you, so if you know where the hotspots are, book your ticket early for a front row seat!

    Then there is Lot’s wife, who looked back of course, typical of women, missing the city life she probably nagged Lot to move to in thr first place, to be closer to the stars and selfie spots; and not being one to listen to THE MAN, turned real salty! You could not even lick the tears…

    I don’t think any archaeology dig will get you far. As God tends to be very thorough if He has to personally do something. But when has archeology or science stopped SwordSpoonFish from believing in quackery like Evolution or mRNA vaccines? So it is clearly not something that’ll convince him anyway! Except when it can be used as a cudgel to attack the Church – like native burial grounds.

    What evidence do native burial grounds existing have of direct wrongdoing by Catholics? Do x-rays of the ground indicate anything? The S-fish doesn’t know! The TV person implied they did, that’s all T-Fish knows! Forget about the facts that all of these “mass (lol) graves” have been known about for years and are not some new Indiana Jones Lost Ancient Temple discoveries, but have been on the books since they existed if anyone bothered to check. Most locations having been practically forgotten without leaving much evidence, much like Sodom and Gammorrah, during a time when nobody could afford fancy tombstones and the finest most comfortable wooden coffins that funeral parlours can scam you on today. And, oh yes when Tubercolosis could kill people and children in numbers that would make Covid-19 look like a series of mosquito bites. But what is all that to Soodfish, a man of following the science and the digging the archaeology? Nothing!

    But at least this exchange finally exposes Joy as the heretical mask-wearing Anglolican that she is. So now we have a clearer idea of the kind of stupid that we’re dealing with!

  40. Joy: “That behaviour is unChristian but straight out of the ‘Christian-fundamentalist’ rhetorical playbook.”

    So… what you are saying us that this behaviour  – IS – out of the Christian playbook… Which if one were a fundamentalist – they’d have to accept and live by – fundamentally – versus you, obviously NOT a fundamentalist, but a self admitted liberal a la carte Anglican, that picks and chooses what playbook rules are personally convenient to you, whilst twerking in the middle of a church stolen from Catholics because your founder decided, “you know what? Ahhh… I just don’t think this rule of ‘not committing adultery’ is for me…I’m not a fundamentalist!” Ah yes, such a ‘Christian’ was he! And Joy loves that! Now be a good Faucimentalist and wear your masks – plural!

  41. Johnno,
    Swordfish can speak for himself but he’s not a Christian, he explains that he was brought up in that tradition. I think it shows and that his commentary to others is exemplary, as is often the case with Atheists, they pt me to shame on that point.

    You’re on a sticky wicket if you try to use the usual tedious but toxic, fire and brimstone talk against atheists.
    Consider that their premise is utterly different from your own. What you say has zero effect. Your clear intent to hurt is what has the effect.

    If you’re a Christian you believe that God through his son Jesus gave two commandments.
    You will know what they are. There is nowhere permission to hate, anyone. Inconvenient! I know. It’s the same for everybody though. It is not the easy route, it is the hardest of all.

    Fundamentalism is the easy route, especially when you’re in a small crowd or come armed with weapons of any kind.

    Catholics tried the fundamentalism approach through the inquisitors. Islam is trying it right now. The Christian (protestant FunDaMentalists, in America, as that’s whee it began), are trying the same thing. It will lead to war and it always has done through time. It leads to a loss of faith and further animus towards the church of Christ.

    Henry VIII has nothing to do with the conversation but we can discuss him another time if you like.
    Right now, you’re doing a Mel Gibson impression. He’s got nothing to do with the subject either but it never stopped him in the movies!

    It’s funny that you think the Catholic church has been ‘stolen’. Very funny

  42. I usually skim or skip Joy’s comments, as they seem mostly unintelligible to me, a sort of verbal sparring that is more like twerking; on the other hand, this “style of communication” could just be over my head…we’ll allow for that. I’d probably be hopeless next to Joy at a dinner party; I just don’t get her drift, most of time. It’s fine to have straightforward theological disagreements and discussions, but when someone keeps dancing around, maybe it’s too hot to stand their ground. It’s a tell.

    If describing the homosexual act clinically, and pointing out the medical problems inherent with pounding around inside each other’s delicate sewage tailpipes, elicits disgust in some people… well, disgust seems a rational and sane response, to using our most profoundly unclean, quite cancer-prone, and easily damaged body part for “raucous off-label entertainment.”

    Joy has alluded to being in the British medical field, so perhaps she and her brethren, be they confessed Christians or not, might grant that buggery (a particular specialty of the British upper classes, or so we’ve heard) is, at the very least, barren and physically unhealthy, if not mentally, morally, and spiritually degrading to the human person.

    “Disgusting”, however, doesn’t begin to describe what is being done to our children; when objectively disordered, and demonstrably life-threatening, sodomy (“gay sex”), is is put upon the highest pedestal in our schools and through-out the public square; when rainbow sodomy flags are raised up for mandatory salutation and military marches; when taxpayers are forced to pay for, and send their children to “how to be buggered and like it” indoctrination classes, along with mandatory gender dysphoria gaslighting sessions, which they apparently hope will culminate in chemical and physical castration of our children…

    ….all of this goes beyond just “disgusting” in the way that the baser things of life and death can be disgusting, such as sewage pipes and rotting flesh.

    This is something else entirely… something demonic and serpentine, rearing his ugly head.

    Did we ever think, even just a couple years ago, that we would allow our children to be masked, collared into schools of lower learning, and “brought to their knees” under the Rainbow Flag, whose stated agenda is the promotion of atheism, forced collectivism, racialism, sodomy, abortion-up-til-and-after-birth, and the sexualization (and open-borders trafficking) of children?

    Here’s a tool for discernment, if you are a Christian: When something feels or seems like Opposites World or Upside-Down World…..when objective evil is called good, and good, is called evil…then it’s probably “of Satan.”

    It’s okay to trust your gut on that, even when you can’t trust your current church hierarchy because they salute something other than Christ the King, and barely even mention His Name.

    It’s as if our Blessed Mother lifts her heel from the head of the serpent from time to time, just to remind us how dangerous he is, until she crushes him once for all, as foretold in Genesis.

    Lastly, Joy, we do not pray “to” Mary, but ask her to pray for us, now and at the hour of our death. You really ought to know this by now, it’s Christian theology 101 and gets explained, and re-explained, foretold in the Old Testament and explained in the New Testament, and expounded upon in many different forums, and from many pulpits, and has been written about by many Doctors of the Church, over and over and over again throughout the long centuries, apparently to no avail amongst the more thick-skulled or willfully ignorant among us.

    The Virgin Mary is the Mother of God, the Spouse of the Holy Spirit, and the Ark of the New Covenant. She isn’t competing with her son, who is also her Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ. She always points to Him, she always “bears” Him, and at the foot of the Holy Cross, Our Lord gave her to us all, as our own Blessed Mother, thereby guaranteeing her eternal motherly protection and intercession on our behalf.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us, now and at the hour of our death.

  43. comment in response to first and only paragraph read from Ann Cherry’s essay:

    “I usually skim or skip Joy’s comments, as they seem mostly unintelligible to me, a sort of verbal sparring that is more like twerking; on the other hand, this “style of communication” could just be over my head…we’ll allow for that. I’d probably be hopeless next to Joy at a dinner party; I just don’t get her drift, most of time. It’s fine to have straightforward theological disagreements and discussions, but when someone keeps dancing around, maybe it’s too hot to stand their ground. It’s a tell.”

    Too hot to stand their ground? sorry? Who is it that is defending the true christian faith on. their own?
    Who is it that is lying and insinuating like the worst kind of Chinese whispers? Post to post? About individuals and about the church?
    Nobody’s ‘dancing around’ just because you say it is so.

    I disagree with much of what I have read from you but also know there is little to no point in discussing with someone who cannot accept the smallest of trivial truth. You’re not alone, as you know.

    I will take you seriously when you do the same in kind. As for your sitting next tome at a diner party? You wouldn’t recognise me.

  44. My comment got sucked up, I’ll try again.

    Joy, I think I’d recognize you at a dinner party (and I did bring it up, mea culpa) as the person standing on said table, twerking the other guests, while complaining about the poor cuisine and our bad table manners. Do I have that about right?

    All in good fun, Joy. I’d be happy to read any coherent thoughts from you, should they ever be forthcoming. Meanwhile, twerk on….at least you are entertaining yourself.

  45. Joy – God IS Jesus. And Jesus being God had a lot more commandments to give. Especially against Sodomy.

    To love God is to HATE Sodomy.

    To love your neighbour as yourself is to HATE Sodomy.

    Much the same for every heresy and sin and false religious sect. Like Anglicanism and Joy-ism. Because these are all offensive to God Who IS Truth. And because it destroys and condemns your neighbours souls into depravity, stupidity, and ultimately Hell.

    Therefore to HATE sinful things and to HATE ideologies that promote them, and to fight against their proponents are actions of LOVE. This is why Hell exists and why pointing out that you’re an idiot when I could just let you be are actions borne from love. Not whatever misconception you have of them, obviously because you belong to a pro-adultery “church” that has slowly moved further away from other morals in order to give people not actual Love, but Feeeeelllliiinnggsss of ‘luv.’ Which much like your ‘women priests’ can’t actually do anything. It is all for show.

    But don’t worry. Once your numbers collapse and provided Islam doesn’t burn them down, we’ll take the Churches we built back, the ones taken by your adulterous king, and exorcise them of your influence. We have many converts from Anglicanism who came back the moment your fellow heretics announced they surrendered to sodomy.

    Its too bad our exemplary Holy Inquisition isn’t around. Such great men they were, unlike the modern courts and justice systems today who are a pale imitation of their proven success. No wonder the ignorant hate them. All the ‘luv’ and lol-Christian neighbourism disappears from the mouths of the Joys at their appearance. Since Joy can’t stand up to scrutiny here, she wouldn’t last 30 seconds before an Inquisitor. But those trials are only for those pretending to be Catholic anyway. So unless Joy is trying to forge her resume she doesn’t need to worry.

  46. Joy,

    Your comments are an illustration as to why there should be better moderation on this site, which used to be a model of politeness and truthful interaction.

    I agree. Witches should be banned.

  47. Only shadows of the good old Inquisition exist Joyless.

    Pale imitators like Antifa, BLM and Twitter attack mobs who are attempting to imitate what they think the Inquisition was.

    See, the actual Inquisitors still had to make logical arguments in a court of law.

    That’s not what the modern imitators even try to do.

    The Inquisition was a good thing, which as Spain proved kept the Protestant stupidity and witch-hunting at bay, maintaining peace for its citizens for many many years. And which has been vindicated by scientific achievements, especially in the Galileo affair, where the covid-happy dopes in the making had to get woke and broke science for the magical world of relativity and evolution where all rigour and evidence can be tossed out so long as it serves the purpose of keeping the Pope at bay, where by making the Earth as un-special as possible gave rise to a psychologically unsettled population looking for affirmation of their identity everywhere having lost trust in what God made them to be, as by then, “God was dead” leaving them with a big salty ocean.

    And years later the revolution has nothing profound to show for its efforts but sodomy and transgenderism. There’s no need to ask me about it, and I don’t even need to tell. That’s what all of public education is for now… Lord knows, they don’t teach math!

  48. Ann Cherry,

    Swordfish, you claim that God cannot, or would not, send a meteor to rain down fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gommorah, because these types of events (also) occur “naturally’?

    No, I didn’t claim that. I claimed that if we have a natural explanation for something, it doesn’t make sense to claim it is evidence for the supernatural.

    You claim that because nobody was turned into a pillar of salt (as far as you know) at a totally different event and location (…), it could not possibly have happened to Lot’s wife at Sodom and Gommorah? Why not?

    Again, I didn’t claim that. You’re making the same error that Christians make all the time: “X doesn’t prove Christianity isn’t true!” Yes, but where’s the evidence that it *is* true? You can’t prove the existence of angels, Nephilim, or God with an old book, so instead you try reversing the burden of proof and demanding that atheists prove it isn’t true.

    As for your prior comment about Lot’s offer to hand over his virgin daughters instead of his guests, who were God’s own angels, to the sexual predators trying to break down his door….that is a fair criticism; but consider that people hand over their children to others for defilement every day, more so now than ever.

    Yes, but they’re not usually the heroes of a story. In a later story, Lot has sex with his own daughters, so incest is apparently okay with God. (Just as slavery is.)

    Yes, we know, some people think “love is love” and anal “sex” is the highest form of love to the debased. But since these same people claim to “follow the science”….let’s see where the science of anal “sex” actually leads

    Where do I even start?!

    1. If preventing the spread of disease is so important to Christianity, why did Jesus tell his disciples not to wash their hands before eating? Why is it mostly Christians who are childishly opposed to wearing face coverings to avoid spreading COVID-19? Why does the Catholic Church campaign to prevent the use of condoms which are *by far* the best way of preventing the spread of HIV?

    2. The majority of people who die from HIV are straight, not gay.

    3. Are you okay with lesbians, or gay men who don’t have anal sex? If not, why mention anal sex at all? If it’s only anal sex that bothers you, what about straight couples that enjoy it?

    4. What business is it of yours if people’s lifestyle affects their health anyway? Do you also think people shouldn’t ride motorbikes, or go skydiving?

    Set aside the biblical story, and look at the actual science of anal “sex’ […] Does that gross you out? It should.

    Even if it did “gross me out” (it doesn’t), so what? Finding something gross doesn’t make it immoral. I find meat gross, but I don’t think it’s immoral for people to eat meat, nor would I torture them for all eternity for doing so.

    Go ahead, salute the Rainbow Penetration, and force others to do the same. Like spoiled children everywhere, you might also try holding your breath until you turn blue; your feelings and temper tantrums, if not your laws and flags, will turn that human sewage pipe you crave, into your own personal Love Canal. It’s the Rainbow alchemy, and therefore above the natural law.

    This is truly embarrasing stuff. You’re more interested in anal sex than any gay people. And I’m not forcing anyone to do anything.

  49. Johnno,

    I don’t think any archaeology dig will get you far. […] What evidence do native burial grounds existing have of direct wrongdoing by Catholics?

    Christian logic: no archeological evidence is evidence of a God; actual bodies in mass graves are evidence of nothing.

  50. Malcom
    You need God’s help, and the prayers of true Christians, if you can find one
    I will pray for you though

  51. “Pale imitators like Antifa, BLM and Twitter attack mobs who are attempting to imitate what they think the Inquisition was.”
    Several points here:
    I don’t care about BLM,Antifa or Twitter. See Briggs for information about Twitter, he’s very fond of the service.

    To me, it looks like people who need followers and public displays of all kinds false or otherwise to promote themselves. It looked that way from the first time I saw the page back in 2008/9?

    so best get in touch with someone who fits into your dichotomous or trichotomous notion of the world as you see it. The world is not structured in the way Twitter, or Briggs, or mainstream media would have. you think.
    Yes, there are groups and factions, there are many, even on the right, around her, who are well and truly fully signed up members of some kind of gang. It is a small part of the whole picture. Most people have their own views which may not fit into your idea of the ‘factions’ . While the left look a lot like faccists. So does the extreme right. This post is a classic example.

    On your comment about logical arguments?
    You have still not responded on the Mickey Mouse paper?
    No admission on your part of total error. Yet you still take yourself seriously and just up the personal attack quotient for the gang, I suppose.

    If you were reading years ago, you’d know that this place was one of the shining lights on the internet in discussion of scientific matters and other matters philosophical. It has degenerated into a den of toxic and fallacious anger venting. It is a shame. Excuse me for finding it necessary to point it out rather too often.

    Bernie Cullen once said, (paraphrase)
    It’s interesting how ungentlemanly and hurtful the comments become when the topic of religion comes up.
    That would be before Briggs declared
    “full return to the church”

    It was far more logical, calm, truthful, and easy to respond and comment back then.
    This seems to support Swordfish’s contention that Christians lack logic in their argument. He says always, I say no that’s what I’m trying to improve upon. Ironically, it is the atheists who can help, when it comes to logic and common sense. The occasional clear thinking and mature Christian, but we don’t hear from them very often.

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