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Rare Week Of Good News, And Some Bad — Coronavirus Update XCIV

JOY IN THE STREETS

If not joy, then at least some broad grins. This is the first week, in the nearly 100 we have been tracking, in which we have seen some loosening of the Grip of the Insane. Let’s recall.

Rap Songstress

Nicki Whatshername didn’t back down. I thought she would have after the White House put the screws on, maybe even sicced the IRS on her. She said men getting vaxxed grew larger balls—which, incidentally, may be why many effeminates have been rushing to get vaxxed—and it turned out to be true.

Superduper Model

Some model with a name like Ditzy said she wants kids so no vax. Supermodel, rather.

They might have been able to hold out against evidence and Noble Prize winners, but against supermodels and rap signers? All that remains is an Oscar winner and a running back and the Regime of Fear falls.

FDA Advisory Board Mans Up

I would have lost money on this one. I thought for sure, when they announced the hearing was to be televised, the fix was in. Was I wrong. Thank God.

Yes. They did indeed use the S-word: side effects. Big huge enormous increases. As you and I, dear readers, have been saying for a long time.

My heart soared like a hawk when I heard.

The White House and Experts can overrule the panel, but then they’d have to memory-hole the panel report. Not too hard to do with they are in control of all propaganda outlets. We’ll see. For now, it is a victory.

Why did they vote, 16–2, on the Side of Sanity? Why didn’t they cave? My guess is that the members, who are academics, are largely in departments and fields still not entirely woke. They have to go to conferences and look other reality-based scientists in the eye. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but I am still amazed.

Australian Men Remember They Are Men

You LOVE to see it. May it spread everywhere and destroy for Forces of Idiocy & Fear which have taken over.

My heart soared higher.

CDC Predicts

I, with no trace of sarcasm or snark or ill will, heartily salute the CDC for putting out these very public forecasts. This is The Predictive Way. This is how statistics should and must be done.

I have been preaching for years that all models must be put in a predictive form so that anybody can check them. And they’re doing it. God bless all involved in this. I mean it.

My heart now soars like an eagle.

Washington Post Says No More Noble Lies

See the astonishing tweet thread:

This is in one of the major propaganda organs of the rulers. It says No More.

They are now admitting acquired immunity! And that’s it’s superior to the vaccine! “. (Why they call acquired immunity “natural” immunity I don’t know. I also don’t know why they call mere infections “cases”, when only a fraction are true cases.) The latest study shows it’s 27X more effective than vax immunity against symptomatic Covid,” hes says.

He says:

One reason public health officials may be afraid to acknowledge the effectiveness of nat immunity is they fear it will lead some to choose getting the infection over vax. But we can encourage all non-immune Americans to get vaccinated while still being honest about the data.

No more noble lies! I sit gape-mouthed in wonder.

My heart now soars like Chuck Yeager piloting the first Moon Shuttle.

It has been a good week. But not entirely good, as we see next.

CULT OF THE MASK

At this point, in those areas without mask mandates the only people walking around in masks are the “fully” vaccinated. Notice that?

Ask masked people if they’re vaxxed. They will all say yes. Which shows this whole thing has been one long painful unnecessary panic embraced greedily by the weak of mind.

“Briggs, you fool. Yes, I’m fully vaxxed, but I wear a mask to protect myself against the unvaccinated.”

That so? The vax doesn’t protect against the bug got from the unvaxxed?

“No.”

But it does if you get the bug from a vaxxed?

“The vaxxed don’t carry the bug.”

So the vaccine does nothing.

“I don’t understand.”

Look, what is the vaccine protecting you from?

“Why, the bug, of course.”

But not the bug got from an unvaxxed?

“No.”

And you can’t get it from a vaxxed?

“No.”

Then where else can you get it from and be protected?

“Wait…my mask is slipping.”

THE NOBEL LIE

Multiply that by however many Expert-run agencies are pushing the continuation of the panic and ask yourself how trust in Experts is corroding.

Speaking on Trusting Experts, this Johns Hopkins report: “Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.

Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S. Their figure, published May 3 in The BMJ, surpasses the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC’s) third leading cause of death — respiratory disease, which kills close to 150,000 people per year.

Golly.

Oh, that’s from 2016. Some things don’t change.

“CASES”

I’ve been railing against “cases” for—I can say this, sadly—years. Well, more than one year, almost two. One outfit in the media is finally catching up. Sort of. Headline is “Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning: A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.”

To us, this falls under the No Shite category. It is the media above all that has been screaming about every “case” like it was near death that caused, and is still causing, the panic. Would everybody panic were the media to trumpet every common cold “case”. Why, yes; yes, they would, as long as the reports were slathered with frightening graphics.

Only now are they recognizing that “cases” is “misleading.” That it’s asinine they haven’t yet reached. And it’s not clear they will, since when they do, they have to admit defeat.

Ignore “cases”. Look at something interesting, like relative attributed deaths.

FLU

Here’s another one we’ve been screaming ourselves hoarse over: Flu. Headline: “Flu Deaths Dropped 97 Percent In 2020. That’s Amazing News.”

According to Scientific American, influenza cases all over the globe have dropped to “minuscule levels.” We’re not seeing nearly the same numbers as we have in previous years because of the health measures in place to help slow the spread of COVID19 — hand-washing, mask-wearing, staying home when sick, and socially distancing.

Scientific American, don’t forget, is the magazine that called doubting the current theory of gradual evolution “white supremacy.” Proving they are run by midwits, so it’s no surprise it took them this long to see what you and I, dear reader, have seen since May of 2020.

RELATIVE VS. ABSOLUTE RATES

Here’s another one we’re always doing: relative versus absolute rate differences. Anything can be made to look good using relative rates. How many “studies” have we deconstructed this way?

Even scientists are becoming upset about the abuses. Witness the peer-reviewedOutcome Reporting Bias in COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Clinical Trials” in Medicina by Ronald B. Brown.

L’abstrait (with my paragraphifications):

Relative risk reduction and absolute risk reduction measures in the evaluation of clinical trial data are poorly understood by health professionals and the public. The absence of reported absolute risk reduction in COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials can lead to outcome reporting bias that affects the interpretation of vaccine efficacy.

The present article uses clinical epidemiologic tools to critically appraise reports of efficacy in Pfzier/BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccine clinical trials.

Based on data reported by the manufacturer for Pfzier/BioNTech vaccine BNT162b2, this critical appraisal shows: relative risk reduction, 95.1%; 95% CI, 90.0% to 97.6%; p = 0.016; absolute risk reduction, 0.7%; 95% CI, 0.59% to 0.83%; p < 0.000. For the Moderna vaccine mRNA-1273, the appraisal shows: relative risk reduction, 94.1%; 95% CI, 89.1% to 96.8%; p = 0.004; absolute risk reduction, 1.1%; 95% CI, 0.97% to 1.32%; p < 0.000. Unreported absolute risk reduction measures of 0.7% and 1.1% for the Pfzier/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, respectively, are very much lower than the reported relative risk reduction measures. Reporting absolute risk reduction measures is essential to prevent outcome reporting bias in evaluation of COVID-19 vaccine efficacy.

My heart soared again like a hawk as I repeat this line: “Unreported absolute risk reduction measures of 0.7% and 1.1% for the Pfzier/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines”.

VEXXINE HARM

Paper “mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination and Development of CMR-confirmed Myopericarditis” by Kafil et al. Abstract portion:

32 patients were identified over the period of interest. Eighteen patients were diagnosed with myocarditis; 12 with myopericarditis; and 2 with pericarditis alone. The median age was 33 years (18-65 years). The sex ratio was 2 females to 29 males. In 5 cases, symptoms developed after only a single dose of mRNA vaccine. In 27 patients, symptoms developed after their second dose of. Median time between vaccine dose and symptoms was 1.5 days (1-26 days). Chest pain was the commonest symptom, but many others were reported. Non-syncopal non-sustained ventricular tachycardia was seen in only a single case. Median LV ejection fraction (EF) was 57% (44-66%). Nine patients had an LVEF below the normal threshold of 55%. Incidence of myopericarditis overall was approximately 10 cases for every 10,000 inoculations.

Maybe rulers don’t talk about this because it’s mostly men being harmed.

VEXXINE EFFICACY

It’s another absurd misleading panic measure to report infections in the vaccinated. Vaccines don’t stop infections. Good grief! How could they? Do they cause your body to project an bioelectric aura around you that zaps bugs that come within its sphere?

No. Vaccines help your body learn how to kill the bugs after you’ve been infected.

Experts would remind folks of this if they weren’t telling noble lies to juice the panic.

Report deaths, then, which is the best metric. How many vexxed people are keeling over? How many unvexxed? Strange, isn’t it, you can’t get them to tell you?

Except sometimes. Here’s the ONS in England. Yes, indeed, vexxed people are getting whacked, but to a smaller extent than the unvexxed.

So the vaccines are imperfect. Which is no surprise (again!) to us. What’s interesting is that some Experts are starting to come around. Singular voices so far in a sea of lies and panic and tyrannical idiocy, like in Australia and New Zealand.

Example 1: “‘Herd immunity’ impossible to achieve, say experts“.

…several factors that made herd immunity impossible at this point, including the ever-changing SARS-CoV-2 virus that caused Covid-19 and an uneven vaccine rollout across the world.

Even if Experts didn’t botch the vaccine and its messaging, rolling it out to every earthling in the same short order was always an impossibility. Which Experts should have known from the get go.

Therefore they should have only went for the most vulnerable (75+ year olds) to curtail development of variants.

Example 2: “Covid vaccines won’t end pandemic and officials must now ‘gradually adapt strategy’ to cope with inevitable spread of virus, World Health Organization official warns”.

Covid jabs will not end the pandemic and leaders should prepare to adjust their vaccine strategy to deal with the virus in the long-term, the World Health Organization’s director for Europe has warned.

Dr Hans Kluge said new strains of Covid will continue to emerge and the virus will remain with us like the flu.

There we are again. Be like Denmark and Sweden, essentially, and treat this like the flu.

Calm down and quit the panic.

NUMBERS

The daily “cases” (source)—a mixture of testing number (huge!), test sensitivity (who knows), disease prevalence (waning), and disease severity (ditto):

Still on the downward trend, as we predicted well over a month ago. But, also like we have been saying, it will rise in the fall starting in the north when it gets cold and people go into their voluntary lockdowns.

Be prepared for this.

Deaths are lagging at the usual rate (this is getting really easy to predict now.) And deaths are still in the old. NOT THE YOUNG. AS BEFORE.

There is no reason to mask up kids, or worry about kids, or report infections in kids as if infections are large concerns.

Our Experts must know this by now. Yet they remain mute.

Incidentally, just about 83% of all 65+ year olds are “fully” vaccinated. The only crucial age group to be concerned about.

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  1. Feast of Saint Matthew

    Perhaps they call acquired immunity “natural” immunity because the human body by nature–through our [God-given] immune system–protects us. Wait. Human nature? Can they believe in human nature is perhaps the question.

    The poison death shot by contrast does not seem natural at all, from its composition to its effect.

    The side effects alone–which are impossible to suppress on the scale they are occurring–bear out the truth of the old epigram:

    “God always forgives. Man sometimes forgives. But Nature never forgives.”

    Hence the desperate attempt–and most Orwellian lie yet–to label deaths and all other adverse events within two weeks after the second dose as happening among the “unvaccinated.”

  2. Yes, they are protesting in Australia. They tried that in France every weekend for months for other reasons and you know what happened? ZIP. Macron is still king and the French are subjects. Protesting and actually winning are two different things and mass protests really seem to have ZERO effect on things. We are so past that point…….

    Hey, why shouldn’t Covid destroy the idea of natural immunity? Climate change killed Darwin and wiped out evolution, something even court battles failed at. I see no problem with Covid destroying natural immunity. It wiped out flu.

    You can get Covid twice, so I question natural immunity. You don’t get measles, mumps or chicken pox twice. I just don’t believe any of this.

    The only virtually 100% fatal disease is tetanus. With treatment, all others have amazing survival rates. So teach those stupid, idiotic, moronic brats you gave to the government and masked up as ordered that diseases are NOT fully fatal and this is a LIE. Covid is 99+% survivable if the government doesn’t get a hold of you. The government is fatal, not the virus.

    “Fully” vaccinated 65+ seem to drop dead of the virus at the same rate as before. The vaccine is a money maker, not a life saver. (A method of making a vaccine that FAILED for over thirty years magically worked when a pandemic and an opportunity to make billions and billions and billions arose suddenly worked. Sure, when pigs fly.)

    I see again the da*n idiots in the news are reporting as many people died from Covid as did from Spanish flu. The ass*s are too stupid to know there are over 300 million people now vs 100 million then. WE ARE BEING KILLED BY STUPIDITY AND THE “FREE” PRESS IS THE CAUSE. FREE PRESS SHOULD BE WIPED OUT. The founders were wrong, wrong, wrong or hated America, one or the other. (You can toss those happy pill, Briggs, we are NOT winning.)

  3. The other thing I notice is the complete lack of concern over false positivity rates.

    Case in point, Brown University basically shut down after 80 cases last week, in a population of about 6000, tested twice per week (so 12000 tests). By my math, that’s 0.66% positivity rate.

    What’s the false positive rate on the test they’re using? At these small numbers of infected and large numbers of tests performed, it really starts to matter.

  4. Sheri: Is there any proof that people who actually had confirmed cases of Covid are getting it twice? I’m seeing plenty of reports of people who had positive pcr tests having more positive pcr tests (which is meaningless, especially since they don’t tell people their cycle counts), but I would think that the propaganda machine would be posting it everywhere if someone who recovered from a serious case of covid subsequently died from a second bout. I haven’t seen that.

    Denninger posted county by county covid data from Tennessee, which showed that the death rate amongst the hospitalized is anywhere from 40 to 89%. It hasn’t been improving since the beginning. You are right that putting your life in the hands of the government is a very bad idea.

  5. Sheri-

    I hope your use of, “free press,” is an ironic way of saying, “Deep State propaganda organs.”

    Totally agree that letting the government treat your health is a recipe for disaster.

    Have a look at their official Covid protocol.

    Yikes.

  6. Suggestion: Can we ditch evil Twitter? Perhaps screenshot, then annotate instead to starve the beast? Friends don’t let friends use Twitter.

    Comment: Yes, some hopeful signs. What I struggle to resolve is whether the good we see is part of their plan or not. Put differently, in Meerloo’s “Rape of the Mind,” waves of oppression are followed by periods of relief to more effectively break people down (good explanation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M). So, are we at a calculated lull or not?

    Inwardly, my spiritual discernment tells me that we are not out of the woods yet. Society has fractured to the point that either violent conflict or mass repentance is necessary. Since the latter appears unlikely, I see the former as inevitable. Perhaps that is part of their plan?

  7. I assume what Nicki Whatshername said was literal, for figuratively, it had to be quite the opposite.

  8. John: Responding to question about symptomatic reinfection of the previously infected who are un-v’axed — Israeli study shows, yes, symptomatic reinfection can happen:

    ”As for symptomatic SARS-COV-2 infections during the follow-up period, 199 cases were recorded, 191 of which were in the vaccinated group and 8 in the previously infected group.”

    Denominator is 16,215 in each group, so:

    191 / 16,215 — reinfected v’axed
    8 / 16,215 — reinfected purebloods

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full

  9. Local news is heavily beating the drum of “hospitals are nearly overwhelmed!” Their big point is that hospitalizations are now at their highest rate since December 2020.

    What they don’t mention is that hospitalization rates in November 2020 were nearly double those of December, for almost the entirety of the month. We didn’t have hospitals actually fill up past capacity then.

    HHS stats for MN currently list overall usage at 78% with only 9% of patients COVID-19.

  10. Experts would remind folks of this if they were telling noble lies to juice the panic.

    Briggs, you’re enemies got you again.

  11. John: Hagfish answered.

    awildgoose: Of course I mean “deep state propaganda organs”. We really never had a free press in the history of this country. It just became less and less free over time.

    Rudolph: I’ve seen photos of those “overwhelmed” hospitals. Kind of like the unicorn pictures I’ve seen. I think the HHS stats pretty much say it all.

  12. “As of September 13, national forecasts predict 290,000–1,360,000 new #COVID19 cases will likely be reported during the week ending October 9. More: https://t.co/7AP4I3S9PU. pic.twitter.com/nwWUrTVK59
    — CDC (@CDCgov) September 15, 2021″

    Why do I get the feeling CDC “predictions” are more like goals, and signals to test centers to ramp-up the cycle count if need be to meet the goal?

    The only stat that has ever mattered is deaths, and as Brigg’s chart above indicates, they are minuscule (and that’s taking the assignation of official “Covid deaths” at face value). There is simply no reason left to consider this a “pandemic” or “health crisis” of any kind at this point, though They can manipulate testing and hospitalization data from now til Kingdom come in order to continue terrorizing people.

  13. Briggs, I’m a newcomer to the blog; what’s the best guess as to why the flu has been on vacation for coming up on two and a half full seasons? I’ve heard crowding out and/or symptom conflation/mimicking due to the “testing” regime.

  14. I don’t see a mention of the “We can’t know what is in the vaccine until we approve it” comment provided by the FDA.

    Nor the “If you are younger than 40, the risk of myocarditis/pericarditis is greater than the risk of covid” from the same guy.

    At 6:28:00 in the FDA stream of the live conference.

    Those unclassified deaths keep climbing. Has anyone found a decent explanation of why they are increasing, that isn’t “other parts of the human body are failing for reasons we can’t quite determine”, which might point at mRNA doing other things to some people’s bodies. It is really suspcious that this number is reflecting the other numbers… It keeps going up. The numbers are lagging like the others…

  15. “Why did they vote, 16–2, on the Side of Sanity? Why didn’t they cave? ”

    Because the WHO told them to vote like this, so that there are more vaxx doses available for the POCs in poor countries. Is that a woke thing or not?

  16. Regular readers know all about wee ps, and how we ought not to be impressed by them. But I’m at a loss over whether to be impressed by negative ps.

    Help!

  17. @Hagfish
    youngsters say if a supposed controversial video “stays up” on youtube,
    its taken with a grain of salt

  18. More good news! BLM protests for us! Who’ll win?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blm-protest-planned-new-york-restaurant-where-vaccination-proof-was-demanded

    Zero Covid is possible!
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/09/20/indian-province-of-utter-pradesh-covid-free-thanks-to-use-of-ivermectin-as-a-preventative-cure/

    what’s the best guess as to why the flu has been on vacation for coming up on two and a half full seasons? I’ve heard crowding out and/or symptom conflation/mimicking due to the “testing” regime.

    As the White House Task Force’s Deborah Birx spelt out quite openly at the beginning of this deliberate medical malpractice, all testing was designed to make every cough and sniffle into the presumed Covid ™. So flu didn’t go anywhere. Flu was reclassified via an accounting trick. If you showed up with the flu, the protocols presumed you were a deadly covid, and they presumed they couldn’t treat you. So they stuck a ventilator on you and watched you die, then cashed in on your demise.

  19. More beautiful Aussie resistance!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fk-jab-long-live-australia-20000-shut-down-melbourne-highway-massive-lockdown-protest

    MORE GOOD NEWS!
    VEXXINE HESITANCY HAS CURED US OF WAR!
    SOLDIERS WILL NO LONGER BE SENT TO THE FRONT TO DIE UNLESS THEY TAKE A SHOT!
    THIS COULD MEAN ONLY THE VEXXED CAN BE DRAFTED!
    VEXXINE REFUSAL = WORLD PEACE!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/navy-seals-told-they-wont-be-deployed-without-covid-vaccine

    EVEN MORE GREAT NEWS!
    Don’t want to wear a mask?
    Want to have a gathering?
    Then simply behave like a celebrity and film yourself and everything!
    Thank you Los Angeles Scientists!

    New: LA County Department of Public Health tells me that the mask-less Emmys were not in violation of the county’s mask mandate because “exceptions are made for film, television, and music productions” since “additional safety modifications” are made for such events.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/health-authorities-claim-performers-rich-famous-are-exempt-mask-rules

    The covid virus is notoriously shy, which is why it is so hard to find and isolate doesn’t wish to be seen on camera. The solition is therefore mass government tracking and surveillance of everybody! This is why you need the Mark, even without you 3rd or 4th vexx!

    Oh the good news! Don’t need to get tested or jabbed if what you intend to do is short-term! From the Mouth of Biden!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/its-not-same-thing-jen-psaki-asked-why-migrants-walking-across-border-dont-have-show

  20. Johnno-

    The controllers’ true intent is generally the complete opposite of their public positions.

    Thus, we should assume their hysterical desperation to get the US military jabbed is meant to cripple readiness and permit other militaries to act.

  21. In some hilarious news, the Canadian election is over! Everybody lost!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tired-divided-dejected-canadians-give-trudeau-liberals-another-minority-government

    Just like typical government, this was a $600 million exercise and absolutely nothing changed!

    The only anti-lockdown party, that has been Ron-Paul’d in every election as if they don’t exist, was the one Conservatives wanted, but couldn’t choose, because it would risk “splitting the vote”, so they had to vote for the pro-lockdown, pro-vexxine, pro-Mark-of-the-Vexx, pro-abortion/LGBT Conservative party so that the pro-lockdown, pro-vexxine, pro-Mark-of-the-Vexx, pro-abortion/LGBT Liberals don’t win!

    Real conversation I overheard:

    “I’m afraid of losing my job if I refuse to vexx.”

    “Who are you voting for?”

    “I am voting for pro-vexx party.”

    “But pro-vexx party is forcing you to vexx if you want to keep your job.”

    “But, I’ve always voted for pro-vexx party!”

    “But you don’t want the Vexx, so why don’t you vote for other no-vexx party?”

    “But, I’ve always voted for pro-vexx party!”

    “But why would you continue to do that? They are pro-vexx!”

    “Look, I am not someone who judges other people.”

    “But you have to judge… you’re voting! That means your discriminating between parties and casting a judgment on which one is better!”

    “Sigh, this is why I don’t like to discuss politics… let’s talk about something else.”

    !!!DEMOCRACY!!!

    P.S. – Yes, it was a liberal woman.

  22. B1: “Youngsters say if a supposed controversial video “stays up” on youtube,
    its taken with a grain of salt.”

    It’s been banned by Faceberg and Instagroan already, so when Youtube deletes video content is verified:
    BREAKING UPDATE: The Video Has Been DELETED by IG/FB! Keep Sharing and Save the Video Before It’s Gone!

    Is it all true? Don’t know, but fits well with other nurse whistleblower vids/posts I’ve seen (hey Briggs! — is that confirmation bias or pattern recognition?). It’s a good video, everyone should watch it and follow up to see if the Underdevil’s ‘factcheckers’ can dent it, or she gets fired, or others come forward. The mandates are monstrous and there’s a lot of upright people who aren’t going to comply. You see the vid of the union guys in Australia rejecting mandated deathjabs and telling their effing leadership to pound sand? Glorious.

  23. Re Shecky: For those have haven’t figured it out, Shecky isn’t a real person. Shecky is a pseudonym used by our beloved host, a dim-witted foil who communicates in vapid half-liners. Like how a comedian will plant a boozed-up heckler in the audience and totally eviscerate them. This serves the dual purpose of drawing the audience in, and serving as an example of what would happen to a real heckler, as in “you really don’t want to be a Shecky”.

    Just trying to be helpful.

  24. Glass half full news:

    First the bad news: Trip to grocery (Kroger) for first time in 10 days. Store had a very large sign back up for the first time since mid-June saying “Masks are required for all associates (that dumb euphemism for “employees” that’s taken hold for the past dozen years or so) and customers to prevent the spread of…scariant…blah blah…” Insane and useless.

    The good news: I’d estimate customer muzzling at only about 30%, and the un-muzzled remained un-molested by either officious “associates” or other customers. So, unlike last summer when these signs went up everywhere and compliance was almost 100% – on grounds that it was “required” by a lawless, power-mad governor – most people now are shrugging their shoulders and just going about their business.

    Unfortunately, there are too many places still where it is not only “required” but enforced (hospitals, doctors’ offices – still can’t get an eye exam or dental check-up overdue since last summer – govt buildings, some entertainment venues – the orchestra requires both muzzle AND proof of vax or negative test, while other venues require nothing – etc.).

    It’s just beyond insane that after more than 18 months of endless Covid lies and BS, this nonsense is either continuing anywhere or in some cases being re-implemented (at least in theory with the reappearance of noxious signs). Masks worked so great to “stop the spread” the first 18 months, I guess they think trying again will make them work this time around?! Of course, it’s not about them “working” in any real sense – it’s about power – controlling, humiliating, dehumanizing, and defacing people.

  25. Milton: “Shecky is a pseudonym used by our beloved host”

    If Briggs bothered to concoct a comedic foil it would certainly have more style and wit and be entertaining.

    Shecky is more of a comedic fail.

    But he’s trying, bless his heart.

  26. I’m sure he’s a paid shill.

    Explains the pointless criticisms on everything. He likely has a per site quota.

    Old timers will recall Jersey McJones who was an admitted shill.

    But, God bless him, we wore him down and he converted before the end of his life.

    Our S is also succumbing to the allure of Reality

  27. I’m with Sheri on this one – we ain’t winning.

    My premonition is that some flu/covid-1984/other will sweep across the globe starting from southeast Asia…and Australia. Given that the regimes in Asia have less difficulty in crowd or panic control than Australia, it seems that the Aussie tyrants have opted to maintain a locked-down populace instead of trying to achieve it at some future date when things hit the fan.

    And, in Canada, we call happy pills legal pot.

  28. Following up Hagfish with more beautiful beautiful resistance in Melbourne! Hang all the Union Nazis!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90GasxpcXg

    Dennis –
    I know many businesses and convention runners hate it, but like the mask and the vexx passports, there are pressures of insurance and other legal things tying their hands. This is nothing to do with health, and everything to do with liability, where some opportunistic schmuck will try to claim they got ill at your store because you didn’t rub enough sanitizer spray on a cereal box. When the customers and riff raff clear out, employees all breath a sigh of relief and dump their masks for after-hours. The vast majority of people don’t take this seriously. But there’s always at least that one effeminate who does that acts as mall cop to control the rest.

    Priests have an especially hard time when their bishops are nutso. Like this nutjob:
    https://voxcantor.blogspot.com/2021/09/remember-name-valery-vienneau-he-is.html

    Vatican is now under the Mark of the Vexx. If the money stops rolling in, they might change their minds. Wonder if you’ll need a vexx to vote in the next conclave!
    https://www.fromrome.info/2021/09/20/on-october-1st-the-vatican-goes-into-schism-with-the-non-vaxxed/

    Oh My! New Official Digital Currencies to be tied to the Mark of the Vexx??? Oh, that’ll never happen! Never!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LAMuhgzXLs

  29. And if we follow what is happening in Israel, the vaccinated will start become the majority of serious cases sometime around November. Then, I predict sometime in December or early next year, we will start seeing multi-organ failure as the antibodies start attacking healthy cells that are still expressing the protein spikes.

    Go to principa-scientific and look up Dolores Cahill. THEN, take a look at this little report: https://principia-scientific.com/80-percent-of-covid-deaths-in-august-were-vaccinated-people/

    The money piece: “This means the unvaccinated population have accounted for just 20 percent of alleged Covid-19 deaths throughout the whole of August, whilst the fully vaccinated accounted for 75 percent of them.”

  30. “This is nothing to do with health, and everything to do with liability, where some opportunistic schmuck will try to claim they got ill at your store.”

    Yes, but by that standard then this never ever ends. Anyone could always claim to have picked up any number of things at some store or event. Pretty much impossible to prove any precise claim of infection origin. If I stop by several places one day, then come down with Covid tomorrow, can I prove where I got it? Not really, no more than most people could ever “prove” where they picked up flu or many other things “going around.”

  31. Typo in email last time:

    This is nothing to do with health, and everything to do with liability, where some opportunistic schmuck will try to claim they got ill at your store.” Yes, but by that standard then this never ever ends. Anyone could always claim to have picked up any number of things at some store or event. Pretty much impossible to prove any precise claim of infection origin. If I stop by several places one day, then come down with Covid tomorrow, can I prove where I got it? Not really, no more than most people could ever “prove” where they picked up flu or many other things “going around.”

  32. Hearing a lot of people say “just because that may have been A cause of death it doesn’t mean it was the ONLY cause of death” in relation to vaccine complication deaths and COVID deaths among the vaccinated population. The hypocrisy would be depressing if it wasn’t so predictable.

  33. True, they’d win in court if it came down to it. But knowing how these places operate, they don’t want the negative exposure and the media raking them through the coals. It’s a perception issue. If they stand up they get hammered down. And whenever these things come up, insurance gets involved to cover expenses. If insurance is on board the covidian cult, then they’ll stipulate you were lax in your regulations, and that means no money. Also insurance cots go up for next time.

    Our entire system of healthcare, law and insurance is a circular firing squad with the common man caught in the middle of the crossfire. All according to plan…

    The Significance of the Resignations of FDA Officials Responsible for Vaccine Safety
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/meaning-fda-resignations/5756418

    Pfizer Admits Israel Is the Great COVID-19 Vaccine Experiment
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/pfizer-admits-israel-great-covid-19-vaccine-experiment/5756404

    Sounds to me like Ursula pulled a Hillary.
    Inquiry launched into ‘lost messages’ between Ursula von der Leyen and Pfizer CEO
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxaUuL3TSqc

  34. Feast of St. Matthew, Apostle & Evangelist

    Matt,

    And no one yet has wished you a happy name day.

    Many thanks for your (practically) lone voice of reason and sanity in this epoch of the Demise of Western Civilization. We don’t care what happens. We fight to the End. We win in the end, too.

    Happy Name Day, brother. Drinks are on Hagfish. Or me (my honor). Thanks again.

    C. P. B.

  35. C. P. Benischek: ”Drinks are on Hagfish”

    Bar is well stocked, laddies: HCQ/quinine gin & tonics, ivermectin hi-balls, zinc & D3 lowballs, and steaming pots of F-U hot toddies. An army goes to war on its thirst; for freedom, justice, and vengeance. Jesus is tending bar. Drink up, and let’s roll.

  36. Rudolph Harrier: “Hearing a lot of people say ‘just because that may have been A cause of death it doesn’t mean it was the ONLY cause of death’ in relation to vaccine complication deaths and COVID deaths among the vaccinated population. The hypocrisy would be depressing if it wasn’t so predictable.”

    Actually, it cracks me up. Sometimes, you just have to laugh.

    I’m sorry for the poor schlemiels who got taken in; but, honestly, the way they justify it, after the fact, is so hypocritical it is funny. Ha ha funny, not peculiar funny.

  37. On the other hand. anyone who allows a minor in their care to be vexxined with this experimental-gene-therapy injection…

    Gah!

    There are no longitudinal studies. You have no idea what the vexxine complications are going to be be three, five ten, fifteen years from now. The VAERs, as underreported as they are, are still way higher than all the other recent vaccines combined. Just in the upcoming cold/flu season, there may be ADE.

    Anyway, do not get the vexxine! It is not good.

  38. Masks are back (a month ago) to being required (after being dispensed with for a couple months) at my local grocery store in NYC–I don’t wear one, and no one has said a peep to me or wife.

    Went to the post office yesterday–same as last month or two–masks are ‘recommended’–so I don’t wear one..

  39. It is a crime to drive too far for take-out food in New Zealand! The virus gods get angry when you smuggle contraband KFC!
    https://moonbattery.com/under-new-zealands-covid-despotism-kfc-is-contraband/

    You know who didn’t support vexxine mandates? HITLER! That maked anti-vexxers and conservativez the new Nazis for supporting the right not to be forcibly vexxined and passported!
    https://moonbattery.com/ultimate-moonbat-headline/

    The celebrities know! They are just acting for you!
    https://youtu.be/US-nSQIDtb4

    The Orange Vest uprising
    https://youtu.be/DMCNuVyv3rY

  40. Police in Australia are becoming more violent against protestors.
    https://www.fromrome.info/2021/09/22/australia-gestapo-unleashed-against-3rd-day-of-construction-workers-protest/

    Vexxine wars continue.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/europeans-vaccinated-astrazeneca-should-be-able-enter-us-says-eu

    Perhaps even God is making his displeasure known to Australians. Might not be such a good idea to piss off the construction crews right now…
    https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/very-rare-earthquake-rocks-melbourne-buildings-shake-across-australia

  41. Ok, glass less full news now: I had hoped to attend 5 or 6 of the upcoming season’s concert programs at my local orchestra (Louisville Orchestra), but couldn’t find anything about their admission policy on their website a couple weeks ago, except a vague “we are following state and local health and safety guidelines.” So I emailed the ticket office to ask if they were committed to a rational and Covid-paranoia-free attendance policy for the upcoming season before I commit to buying tickets, or if the policy changes in such a manner as to later preclude my attendance (at my discretion as to what policies or conditions I deem insupportable), can I get a refund on request. No response.

    So today I discovered an elaborate new post on their website outlining audience attendance (and intra-orchestra) Covid policies more extreme than any I’ve seen around here (and certainly not “required” by any “local health and safety guidelines”). Get a load of this madness (especially the last half):

    “For all Louisville Orchestra events, your admission will be subject to presenting either a record of full vaccination or negative COVID test results no older than 72 hours. This applies to all persons over the age of 5 years…This policy is based on the recommendation of our medical advisors as well as our security advisors who will check credentials as well as verify authenticity at each performance. Masking is mandatory at all performances until further notice for everyone over the age of 2 years…Many precautions are in place to ensure the health of the Louisville Orchestra musicians. We are just short of 100% vaccination status plus all musicians provide 2 negative tests during concert weeks to ensure safe rehearsals as well as performances. Our performance halls and stage areas have been maximized for healthy airflow, instruments that need to be masked have custom-made bell covers, and musicians are masked on stage as much as their performance permits.”

    I guess the first part with the “vax or test passport” is par for the course in many places now (though again, it is certainly not “required” by any local or state health and safety law – or even lawless “mandate” right now – as there are other concert venues around here that to do not require any such vax or test proof, and also do not require muzzles).

    But what really kills me is the part about the orchestra itself. They say they are nearly 100% fully vaccinated, yet they are still requiring musicians to be subjected to Covid tests twice(!) a week and to wear masks (Because the vaccines and muzzles clearly work, right?!). And as if that weren’t enough, “instruments that need to be masked have custom-made bell covers.” “Instruments that need to be masked.” Good grief. Masking inanimate objects – the reductio ad absurdum of the Mask Cult. Absolute lunacy.

    I emailed again to tell them I’ve now seen their newly posted policies, which are utterly irrational and medically and scientifically unjustified, and that I hope the orchestra (and every other institution in this deranged country participating in the perpetuation of Covid Cult paranoia through lunatic attendance policies) simply collapses into bankruptcy and gets tossed on the ash-heap of history through lack of attendance and support. Those who participate in perpetuating this Covid Cultist evil deserve to have that evil redound to them tenfold.

    As much as I’d like to see certain works on the upcoming programs live, I have plenty of CD and DVD performances of favorite works by orchestras and conductors far superior to the LO and Teddy Abrams, and it’s not worth abasing oneself to conform to such lunatic policies (as well as undertaking the additional expense of getting tested for something for which I have no symptoms) in order to attend.

    I guess at this point the Covid Cultists won’t rest until literally every enjoyment left in life is destroyed.

  42. Meanwhile…

    After Spreading COVID Misinformation, Pastor R. Loren Sandford Has Died of COVID

    Another pastor who downplayed or denied the seriousness of COVID has died from COVID.

    This time it’s R. Loren Sandford, a pastor from Denver, Colorado, who spent much of the past 18 months pretending the pandemic wasn’t as big a deal as scientists were making it out to be and sowed misinformation about the vaccine. It was clear he hadn’t received the shot. [Friendly Atheist]

    https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/09/18/after-spreading-covid-misinformation-pastor-r-loren-sandford-has-died-of-covid/

  43. Ah yes, “Friendly Atheist,” another source of objective information.

    What underlying conditions did this 70 year old have? Did he die “from” or “with” Covid? How was he treated? Did the docs try any of the safe and effective Ivermectin or HCQ treatment protocols, or was he just left to languish, perhaps intubated, while docs claimed “it’s just too late, nothing we can do, no known treatments (or none our MBA admin overlords who now control the practice of medicine will allow us to give) other than experimental mRNA jabs and intubation?”

    We’re not told any of this, because that might complicate the simplistic gloating of “Friendly Atheist.” GTFO.

  44. Maybe we should start checking the religious affiliation of all those dead from vexxines.

    How many do you think are registered atheists? I’m pretty sure there are many unfriendly ones screaming through their masks right now!

  45. “Local atheist, who spent his life downplaying the dangers of sin, now burns in eternal hellfire.”

  46. Dennis: “What underlying conditions did this 70 year old have? Did he die ‘from’ or ‘with’ Covid? How was he treated? Did the docs try any of the safe and effective Ivermectin or HCQ treatment protocols, or was he just left to languish, perhaps intubated, while docs claimed ‘it’s just too late, nothing we can do, no known treatments (or none our MBA admin overlords who now control the practice of medicine will allow us to give) other than experimental mRNA jabs and intubation?'”

    Don’t forget Remdesivir.

    Was an autopsy performed?

  47. Johnno: “Maybe we should start checking the religious affiliation of all those dead from vexxines.”

    Lots of agnostics/atheists are anti-vexxine.

  48. LoL, Johnno. And soon those vids from Veritas will be taken down from Youtube. But I guess they’ll be available at Rumble and Bitchute and other places that respect free speech and info. Yeah, I don’t think I trust those vexxines particularly how they’ve been pushing for these things in a corporatist-fascist manner with the recent mandate from “king” Biden – I guess the executive branch nowdays acts like another legislature.

    Why bother with the vexxines anyway even if they’re always safe, particularly for a common cold virus that has only a 1% or less death rate and a virus that we already have feasible cures for?

    If the government and corporations were really serious about the covid pandemic they would cease trade with China instead of wasting our time with this bull. After all, that C-19 virus came from a lab in Wuhan, China where the CCP is apparently trying to create pandemic viruses.

  49. “Yeah, I don’t think I trust those vexxines particularly how they’ve been pushing for these things in a corporatist-fascist manner with the recent mandate from “king” Biden…”

    Indeed, the extent of the govt propaganda (to the point of outright bribery with everything from hamburger coupons, special lotteries, etc.) for these jabs (something never seen for vaccines or other medical treatments for diseases far more deadly) is disturbing, often darkly comical, and reason enough to question both the motives of govt and the efficacy of the jabs if they have to bribe and coerce people so blatantly to take them.

    A recent example: I had reason to visit my state’s DMV website yesterday for some info. At the top of the DMV website was a banner that said, “Find out about the safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines. Click here for more information.”

    Ah yes, the old “safe and effective” mantra, endlessly repeated despite mounting evidence of vaccine failure worldwide (and a very troubling bad side effects profile – and that’s just the short and medium and term adverse effects we know about; wait until the long-term effect really kick in!). But more importantly: Why the blankety-blank is the DMV promoting vaccines? Since when do vaccines, or any other medical treatment or procedure, fall within the remit of fricking DMV? Just absurd.

    Anything the government and mainstream media so desperately want me to take is reason enough to be wary. The more desperately and threateningly they push, the more I will push back, dig in, and resist until the end, come hell or high water.

  50. That’s fine Dennis; no worries about the typos I get your points and agree.

    I haven’t been paying too much attention on the vexxines but every once in a while I will read or hear a story about the negative effects of the vexxines from Gab or Bitchute or Rumble ( I hardly go to youtube anymore because they don’t allow real news anymore and besides that, the platform is practically a boring ghost-town because of the illiberal censorship policies). I will hear stories such as someone dying due the vexxine, or a person suffering a lot of pain due to it or even people going to the hospital for covid even after being fully vexxinated.

    Yeah, we’re being lied to alright. Too many sources saying otherwise about the safety of the vexxines. I think the last time I saw Tucker Carlson cover the vexxine, (and I don’t listen to Carlson often) which was last April, he said about, if I remember correctly, 4000 people died either in association with or due to the vexxines. And that was just last April and he was siting a federal source. And I can only imagine there’s more deaths and hospitalizations by now. Why isn’t this being investigated?

    And of course there’s no compensation if you get negative side effects, injured or even die due to the vexxine or what could be partly due to the vexxine. So why take it in the first place? Maybe 10 years from now, we’ll see the tv commercials advertise for compensation for covid vexxines like they’re doing for various old pharma products that have been long taken out of the market.

  51. He was probably citing VAERS. It’s currently at 6,181 for deaths reported from COVID vaccines, which is interesting since that number was previously over 7,000. In fact this page on the CDC currently lists a count of 7,899:

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

    Archived versions since that number is definitely going to change, one way or the other:

    https://archive.is/c1yt9

    Vaccine supporters will say that the drop in VAERS is due to many of the initial reports being confirmed to not be related to the vaccines, and thus removed. Skeptics will be more wary of the drop. (I will note that even with the smaller number COVID vaccine deaths still account for 83.35% of vaccine deaths ever recorded to VAERS; with the larger total listed on the CDC page they would account for 86.48% of the deaths. There have only been about 1,200 deaths reported, ever, from vaccines if you discount the COVID vaccines.)

  52. Bobcat: “Maybe 10 years from now, we’ll see the tv commercials advertise for compensation for covid vexxines like they’re doing for various old pharma products that have been long taken out of the market.” I’ve heard that it’ll be a lot less than 10 years in the US.

    Already there are reports of vexxined turning against vexxines because of family tragedies. It’s only going to get worse during cold/flu season for those who damaged their immune system. And all the adverse events are still piling up.

    Pfizer lied; people died.

  53. But why wait on them?

    “They” (we all know who “they” are, right?) are all geared up to inject this vexxine into children now, five year olds… Despite the horrendous myocarditis results in 12-17 year olds. Who were at no risk from the virus. Yeah, half of the myocarditis cases have a very poor prognosis, as in they’re going to die within five years.

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243672

  54. I deal in probabilities, and the most probable account of what’s been happening is that an engineered virus was deliberately released to create a public health crisis to initiate a bio-security regime.

    The people behind the virus are also the people promoting dangerous, but very profitable treatments, while they suppress affordable and effective cures. This is a crime against humanity on the widest scale.

    This is the most probable scenario.

    The bio-security agenda isn’t speculative. Rather, it’s well documented in literature produced by international agencies and foundations over many decades on the type of controls they consider necessary to manage societies, including managing peoples’ lifestyles, reproduction and lifespans. We can comply or we can refuse to comply. It’s our choice.

  55. You’re dead right Philemon. I’ve been saying since as early as May 2020 that we were witnessing the unfolding of the greatest collective crime against humanity ever. It’s still going over 18 months later, and I don’t think we’ve seen the worst yet.

    P.S. Perhaps too early to conjecture, but I’m seeing reports that the TN Kroger shooter was an employee who’d been fired earlier this morning. Who wants to bet it was over something Covid-related – muzzle and/or vax requirement or incessant testing, etc – and it will be used by the Feds and their corporate minions to further crack-down on dissent (both on and offline) and push the forced-vax, health passport, and nascent general bio-security and CCP- style Social Credit regime even harder? I’m sure they’re readying evidence now that he frequented “dangerous” sites spreading “vaccine misinformation,” that warped his mind, etc. Or we’ll find out he’s been on the Fed radar for a while, but they did nothing to stop him, and perhaps even used “informants” to help provoke and radicalize him.

  56. Dennis: My guess is that they are pushing vexxines so hard because cold/flu season is coming. Major fail on vexxines.

    The TN Kroger shooter is neither here nor there if people don’t buy it.

  57. Looks like we have some movement.

    Rep. Paul Gozar has sent a letter to the US Department of Health and Human Services demanding a “full review of all HHS health care systems nationally to ensure full compliance with vaccine injury reporting laws including reporting all adverse events occurring after the administration of the COVID-19 vaccine,” following the release of this week’s Project Veritas undercover recordings.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-official-busted-joking-about-blow-dart-forced-vaccinations-jewish-star-registry-mark

    NY medical staff should call her bluff.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-yorks-new-gov-threatens-replace-unvaccinated-hospital-workers-foreigners

  58. Dennis,

    Ah yes, “Friendly Atheist,” another source of objective information.

    The post is mostly a series of screenshots taken from the Pastor’s Facebook account. What’s not objective about that?

    What underlying conditions did this 70 year old have?

    If he had underlying health conditions, that should have been all the more reason to get vaccinated.

    Did the docs try any of the safe and effective Ivermectin or HCQ treatment protocols?

    Studies on Ivermectin and HCQ are either inconclusive or negative:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33031488/

    or was he just left to languish, perhaps intubated, while docs claimed “it’s just too late, nothing we can do, no known treatments (or none our MBA admin overlords who now control the practice of medicine will allow us to give) other than experimental mRNA jabs and intubation?”

    Yeah, obviously the doctors just let him die. /sarc

    We’re not told any of this, because that might complicate the simplistic gloating of “Friendly Atheist.” GTFO.

    The article doesn’t gloat. It’s trying to warn people not to believe the lies spread by the likes of you, which are killing people.

    Johnno,

    How many do you think are registered atheists?

    There’s no such thing as a registered atheist. And the vaccines are safe.

    Rudolph Harrier,

    “Local atheist, who spent his life downplaying the dangers of sin, now burns in eternal hellfire.”

    Loving God creates place of eternal torture! Film at 11! Also, COVID-19 is real but Hell isn’t.

    Johnno,

    Don’t forget Remdesivir.

    Remdesivir is approved by the FDA, so it might have been used.

    philemon,

    Lots of agnostics/atheists are anti-vexxine.

    90% of atheist respondents said that they will “definitely” or “probably” seek the shot, or have already received their first vaccine dose. Meanwhile, an average of 77% of Catholics will go in for the jab, and only 62% of Protestant participants. By contrast, nearly half — 45% — of white evangelicals say they “definitely” or “probably will not” seek the coronavirus vaccine, regardless of the manufacturer. [New York Post]

    Johnno,

    Something tells me SwordFail can’t answer.

    Can’t answer what?

  59. “Studies on Ivermectin and HCQ are either inconclusive or negative:”

    No, they are not. But keep repeating regime propaganda.

    This is what I hear when I see Swordfish now: Wammmp…wammmp…wwaawwwaa…waammp…waammppp (Kinda like that sound you hear on the other end of the telephone in Charlie Brown).

  60. “Yeah, obviously the doctors just let him die. /sarc”

    You really haven’t been keeping up with the state of things in hospitals and the practice of medicine these days, have you?

  61. The post is mostly a series of screenshots taken from the Pastor’s Facebook account. What’s not objective about that?

    Objective in terms of the circumstances that led to his demise. In other words there is neither proof that THE COVID ™ killed him, nor that a vexxine would’ve helped him. The Pastor’s views are looking very good right now considering the documented vexxine failures.

    If he had underlying health conditions, that should have been all the more reason to get vaccinated.

    That depends. Underlying conditions are also routinely a reason NOT to take any vaccinations due to complications where even acceptable vaccines could take a toll on one’s already vulnerable immune system just as much. Hence the phrase:”Talk to your doctor” before making any decisions.

    Studies on Ivermectin and HCQ are either inconclusive or negative

    This is FALSE. I’d link you to hundreds of findings but you’re not going to read them, just like you didn’t check your own links to determine whether the studies you linked are known to be deliberately botched by applying the treatment only to late stage and terminal patients where they were designed to fail amd faulty data from a retracted Lancet study. Several countries like India and Japan have dumped vexxine strategies in favor of Ivermectin because unlike Western bureaucrats medicine is not politicized there and they are not under the thumb of pharmacorp lobbyists. This line of propaganda is now so thoroughly debunked that your attempt to claim otherwise demonstrates either complete and total obliviousness on your part, or outright deliberate lying. You tell us, because we know you are familiar with what we’ve said to you before, and you aren’t going to slip away with the hilarious excuse that your posts are for other hypothetical new readers of Brigg’s blog and comments that you are hypothetically one-sidedly talking to.

    Yeah, obviously the doctors just let him die.

    Yes! They actually could have! Just read the protocols for “treatment” aka “We can’t do anything against THE COVID ™, do nothing, just let him die comfortably.” This is necessary, you see. Because if they could do something then there is no more need for Emergency Authorization for untested deadly mRNA shots! So which is it Trumpboner? Doctors themselves are raising the alarm and lawsuits have been filed because staff are ordered by protocol to literally sit back and watch people die so that Pfizer and Moderna can get rich!

      It’s trying to warn people not to believe the lies spread by the likes of you, which are killing people.

    O’RLY? Why don’t you send your little story to these people and see what they think of your warning?
     https://mobile.twitter.com/ImStaceyKate/status/1440899764728467462

    There’s no such thing as a registered atheist. And the vaccines are safe.

    I know that lefties have trouble with jokes and sarcasm, but I also have to ask now… is the last thing you said a joke? Or are you a true religious believer? You know, the sort who believes things without evidence? Irrationally? The worst sort of religious? The one who believes the television people and marketing campaigns?

    COVID-19 is real but Hell isn’t.

    Disbelief in Hell is what leads people to create Covid-19 illegally in labs and then go “Oops!” and then wait 6 months before telling anybody, and then after the virus has done its damage and it’s safe, to start locking people up and demanding they buy your patented “cures” under duress. Hey, if Hell doesn’t exist Dumbbone, then why are you soooo upset at other people telling lies? What are the consequences?

    Can’t answer what?

    See above. Once again many swings and all misses from a fishnotasword.

  62. A certain Trombone can’t help but remind me as well of this episode at the end of Dante’s Inferno 21, where Barbariccia signals back to his squad of fellow devils with his “cul fatto trombetta”:

    “Off they set along the left-hand bank,
    but first each pressed his tongue between his teeth
    to blow a signal to their leader,
    and he had made a trumpet of his asshole.” (Inferno 21: 136-139; Hollander trans.)

  63. Don’t be so harsh on Mr. trombone, the vaccine is a sacrament of his religion, just as old or out of context links to journals are his holy texts.

  64. Oh yeh, and there’s that nit-wit Swordfishtrombone, of course, going with the lamestream mockingbird media slant on everything. He almost always has to have the last word on everything.

    Quite honestly, reading that “friendly atheist” blog reminded me of reading one of those lame Jack Chick comics on religion. Only instead about how Bill or Mill went to hell because they didn’t subscribe to the perceived, correct religion; it’s about how so and so apparently died because he didn’t get the jab (possibly leaving out other details that might be relevant to that person’s death as others have pointed out here).

    People should be left to make their own medical choices; no one should be forced, nor “mandated” to take a vexxine particularly one that can have negative side effects and even death.

    “Don’t be so harsh on Mr. trombone, the vaccine is a sacrament of his religion, just as old or out of context links to journals are his holy texts.” Yeah I see your point alright Rudolph

  65. swordfishtrombone: “90% of atheist respondents said that they will ‘definitely’ or ‘probably’ seek the shot, or have already received their first vaccine dose. Meanwhile, an average of 77% of Catholics will go in for the jab, and only 62% of Protestant participants. By contrast, nearly half — 45% — of white evangelicals say they ‘definitely’ or ‘probably will not’ seek the coronavirus vaccine, regardless of the manufacturer. [New York Post]”

    But what about the agnostics?

    73.4% of people like swordfishtrombone who belief opinion polls are accurate, also believe everything they read in the The New York Post.

    swordfishtrombone: “Remdesivir is approved by the FDA, so it might have been used.” No, it’s an EUA, so not approved, and the EUA only applies to its use for Covid “cases” Of course, it is one of Fauci’s pet drugs, like AZT. How’s that dialysis working out for you?

    Bobcat: “…no one should be forced, nor ‘mandated’ to take a vexxine particularly one that can have negative side effects and even death.” Personally, I am of the opinion that the vexxines should have been recalled long ago, and no one should be allowed to take any of them at this point.

    Also, for a correction to a copy/paste inaccuracy with couple of edits of my own (because the greater/less than signs are confused):

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/09/03/w-o-o-d-3-september-2021/#comment-151089

    “Yup, found the missing bit under 3.4 and added it… It looks like he left out the #2 stuff and had the #3 there.

    “So what did these few nursing homes do that nobody has done since and nobody reported out at the time?
    1. Early start of treatment, regardless of the severity of patient symptoms.
    – Antihistamines every 12 h: dexchlorpheniramine 2 mg, cetirizine 10 mg or loratadine 10 mg.
    – Azithromycin 500 mg orally every 24 h for 3 days if there is rapid improvement, and for 6 days if the duration of symptoms is prolonged.
    – If pain or fever, acetaminophen 650 mg/6–8 h.
    – Nasal washing and gargling with sodium bicarbonate water (half a glass of warm water with half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate).
    2. Patients with mild or recent-onset symptoms (cough, fever, general malaise, anosmia, polymyalgia):
    – Antihistamines every 12 h: dexchlorpheniramine 2 mg, cetirizine 10 mg or loratadine 10 mg.
    – Azithromycin 500 mg orally every 24 h for 3 days if there is rapid improvement, and for 6 days if the duration of symptoms is prolonged.
    – If pain or fever, acetaminophen 650 mg/6–8 h.
    – Nasal washing and gargling with sodium bicarbonate water (half a glass of warm water with half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate).
    3. If symptoms of severity (dyspnea, breathing difficulty, mild or moderate chest pain, with SpO2… [] 100 beats per minute at any time of the process):
    – Antihistamines + Azithromycin (see mild treatment management)
    – Levofloxacin 500 mg/12 h, up to 14 days of antibiotic treatment from diagnosis.
    – Mepifilin solution, 50 mg/8 h as a bronchodilator, until subjective improvement. Patients with previous lung disease (asthma or COPD) used their usual bronchodilators.
    – If the patient experienced increased breathing difficulty, prednisone 1 mg/kg/day divided into two doses until clinical improvement, and then it was slowly tapered down.
    4. Prophylactic treatment for close contacts, including all asymptomatic residents:
    – Antihistamines at the same dose as symptomatic patients.”

    Successful treatment. EUA obviously wrong.

  66. Rats! Item 3 should read: “SpO2 less than 80%, heart rate greater than 100 beats per minute.” Was trying to use brackets in the approved academic fashion and they failed me!

  67. “Personally, I am of the opinion that the vexxines should have been recalled long ago, and no one should be allowed to take any of them at this point.”

    Indeed, plenty of drugs (including vaccines) have been pulled in the past with far fewer (and less severe) adverse reactions or deaths than these Covid jabs (ex. the swine flu jabs in the ‘70s). As vaccine failure evidence mounts worldwide indicating that these jabs prevent neither infection nor transmission (and may actually increase viral load, making contagiousness and case severity worse), and adverse reaction and death reports climb as well, it is clear they are totally unfit for purpose and should have been pulled months ago (actually never should have been approved, even under EUA, to begin with).

    But the Regime (a term I prefer to Yarvin’s Cathedral, which he defines as “journalism plus academia,” which “rewards conformity with dominant thought.” Think of the Regime as “Cathedral plus politicians plus Deep State”) has made an idol of these jabs, and it seems no amount of evidence will move the Regime from its slavish devotion to them at this point. Because actual health, safety, and efficacy are not the point of the jabs; they are merely a means (as is Covid itself) to other Regime ends.

  68. philemon,

    73.4% of people like swordfishtrombone who belief opinion polls are accurate, also believe everything they read in the The New York Post.

    I cited that poll (carried out by Pew) because I thought you might find it interesting (as it doesn’t necessarily refute your claim), but apparently I was wrong. Maybe I should have cited a blog written by a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist instead?

    No, it’s an EUA, so not approved, and the EUA only applies to its use for Covid “cases” Of course, it is one of Fauci’s pet drugs, like AZT.

    It’s approved by the FDA for use against COVID-19, unlike the other drugs mentioned. That was my point. You are one of those people who insists on disagreeing with everything I say, just because *I* said it.

    As for Fauchi, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honour available in the USA. What have you got?

  69. Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer,

    Don’t be so harsh on Mr. trombone, the vaccine is a sacrament of his religion, just as old or out of context links to journals are his holy texts.

    The links are from January and July 2021, and I linked to meta-studies because they look at the results of many previous studies to give an overall picture, which is not in any way “out of context”. Regarding vaccines being “part of my religion” – that is just stupid. If the evidence was against the vaccines, I wouldn’t be in favour of them. But it isn’t. So I am.

  70. Norway seems to have had enough, signals an end to covid-hoax regulations.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-19-norway-can-now-be-compared-flu-says-health-chief

    UK is also tired, but there is also this little mini bomb of a doozy!

    “So the pressure on the NHS is largely abated. If you look at the deaths from COVID, they tend to be very elderly people, and it’s not entirely clear it was COVID that caused all those deaths.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uk-scientists-warn-covid-will-likely-resemble-common-cold-next-spring

    So there you go folks, covid is now just the flu and just the cold. Time to start rewriting all the fact-chicks!

    More good news!

    “The city did not put on any evidence, at all, at the injunction hearing,” Brasington wrote in a 7-page ruling.

    “Without any evidence, the court is unable to consider whether the vaccine mandate serves a compelling interest through the least restrictive means, whether the vaccine mandate meets a strict scrutiny test, a rational basis test, or whether it meets any other standard,” she added.

    THE SCIENCE ™ can’t prove anything! Oh no…. but what about all those fat-czechs???

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/florida-judge-halts-citys-covid-19-vaccine-mandate

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    ‘The View’ Sent Into Chaos After Two Hosts Test Positive For COVID Mid-Show; Kamala Interview Upended

    Friday’s episode of The View was a complete meltdown, after two hosts tested positive for Covid-19 mid-show, forcing producers to change Vice President Kamala Harris’ planned in-person visit into a virtual interview.

    After the first commercial break, hosts Sunny Hostin and Ana Navarro were asked to leave their seats – with co-host Joy Behar telling the audience that an explanation would be forthcoming. When Behar asked a producer if she could introduce the vice president, a producer instead sent the show into another break, according to People.

    Following the break, Behar announced that the fully vaccinated Hostin and Navarro had both tested positive for Covid-19.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/view-sent-chaos-after-two-hosts-test-positive-covid-mid-show-kamala-interview-upended

    If the evidence was against the vaccines, I wouldn’t be in favour of them. But it isn’t. So I am.

    ^^^^^^BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!^^^^^^

  71. The fun thing about Mr. trombone is how transparently dim he is. He consistently returns to a posture of being reasonable and going wherever the evidence leads, but when asked to justify anything he will just post whatever the first link he has available and demand that everyone else submit to its conclusions (or sometimes not even the conclusions of the paper, but the conclusions he thinks it has but doesn’t.) If challenged to explain or justify the findings of the paper he will not, because he will admit that he is not qualified to do so. If presented with evidence for alternative conclusions he will dismiss it as “not from reputable sources,” again without explanation. It’s so transparent that he hasn’t even tried to do anything beyond repeating conclusions he has been told, but he still tries to keep up the pretense of being a little expert himself.

    As if anything more was necessary to show his dimwittedness: it took him this long to make a reindeer related insult based on my name.

  72. Rudolph Harrier: “As if anything more was necessary to show his dimwittedness: it took him this long to make a reindeer related insult based on my name.”

    It’s not a very good insult either. Rudoph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was a hero!

    swordfishtrombone: “It’s approved by the FDA for use against COVID-19, unlike the other drugs mentioned.” My point is that it did not have prior FDA approval through the usual channels, unlike the other drugs mentioned, and also has an appalling safety record with respect to kidney/renal system damage. It’s also expensive. Contrary to your claim, it was only granted an EUA, specifically for use in Covid cases, while other, fully FDA-approved, long-standing, much safer and cheaper antiviral drugs were excluded from the protocol for treating Covid. For some reason…

    Now, I know it hurts your head to think, but why would that be? Fauci has financial ties to Gilead and Remdesivir. He has a financial interest, just like he had with AZT. Did he care about 30,000 dead gay guys? No. What makes you think he cares about Covid cases dying due to kidney failure from Remdesivir?

    swordfishtrombone: “As for Fauchi, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honour available in the USA. What have you got?” Common sense, human decency, a conscience, and no blood on my hands. And I wouldn’t trade that for any medal.

    I’ve also worked in medical research with clinical cancer trials back when they had standards (and real biostatisticians, who were using Bayesian thresholds), which helps in detecting seriously defective clinical trials.

    “You are one of those people who insists on disagreeing with everything I say, just because *I* said it.” No, but it’s looking like a good rule of thumb. 😉 Honestly, a Pew poll? Have you ever looked at the questions and answers and how they’re tabulated and how biased they are to their preconceived outcomes? Probably not. From what you’ve written, you don’t have much life experience. Well, hopefully, you’ll learn.

  73. Admittedly, I don’t have a list handy of presidential medal of freedom recipients, but I do take the general view that an award for pleasing politicians isn’t something to brag about. I’m more impressed by people who have turned down the presidential medal of freedom or other public honors.

  74. I missed the part where the tootfish seriously argued that Fauci received a medal???

    Where’s that meme of that decorated general who did nothing versus one who actually did?

    Might as well give Fauci an Oscar at this point! I mean, Cuomo already won an Emmy for that performance art! And Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize as soon as he took office and hadn’t even done anything! We all know how that turned out!

    Here’s a fun fact-check! But did we really need it? I mean… really, Snopes?
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/north-korean-medals-photo/

    Well, maybe dumbfish will read that link and come away sufficiently impressed!

  75. There was a story in the local news about a hospital in town having the highest day ever in urgent care attendance. This was blamed on rampant COVID cases. But “cases” are roughly where they were in the last peak and nowhere near where they were last winter.

    Towards the end of the article it mentions that the hospital is running out of rapid tests, and that they are strongly recommending that patients who want a test but have no or mild symptoms then they should go to a local testing center instead. This would strongly suggest that the increase in demand is just for tests, not from actual sick people, and thus was caused by “vaccinate or agree to regular testing” mandates.

  76. “ recommending that patients who want a test but have no or mild symptoms then they should go to a local testing center instead. This would strongly suggest that the increase in demand is just for tests, not from actual sick people, and thus was caused by “vaccinate or agree to regular testing” mandates.”

    Yep. Absolutely nuts to constantly test people for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate when they have “no symptoms.” F this insane world.

  77. Shingles due to vexxine. Clinic staff are seeing it, and ascribing it to the vexxine. The vexxine reduces immune response to prior illness, including cancers. Apparently suppressing T-Cell activity. Not good.

    Ivermectin and antihistamines are looking better.

  78. I’ve said this elsewhere, but I’ll say it again.

    You do not want shingles. I’ve had both shingles and COVID-19, and shingles was easily twenty times worse. I was lucky enough not to have permanent damage from it, but it still took me three miserable weeks to fully recover from the main part, and another three months for the itching to go away. In contrast I was done with COVID-19 in three days.

    The vaccines do absolutely have a risk for shingles. There are more shingles cases in VAERS from COVID-19 vaccines than any other vaccine other than shingles vaccines.

    You will notice that articles that try to say there is no connection will say that it is impossible for the vaccine to cause shingles since it does not contain the varicella zoster virus. But the fact is that shingles occurs in people who have already been infected by varicella zoster (the first time as the chicken pox.) The virus is never destroyed completely from your system, but your immune system normally keeps it in check. While shingles isn’t completely understood, in most cases it recurs because the immune system is weakened or compromised in some way, allowing the virus to resurge. So it really doesn’t matter if the COVID vaccines contain the actual virus; you almost certainly already have it in your body and if they mess with your immune system it could give you shingles.

    A really good example of this sort of explaining away is in this article:

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-don-t-cause-shingles-but-may-lead-to-flare-ups-experts-say-1.5516488

    In particular, consider this quote:

    “While some are suggesting on social media that shingles may be a side effect of the COVID-19 vaccine, experts say there is no evidence to suggest that the vaccines cause shingles.

    However, studies suggest COVID-19 infection or vaccination against the disease may “reactivate” the virus if a person already has had shingles or chickenpox.”

    “Reactivation” of the varicella zoster virus is exactly what shingles is. If you have not been infected so the virus is just activating the first time, you get Chicken Pox, not shingles. Thus what this article is saying is that the vaccine can’t give you shingles, but it might give you shingles.

  79. An amusing thing to do is to find a bunch of articles discussing whether COVID-19 can cause shingles. Suddenly the skepticism disappears, as does the strange distinction between shingles and “shingles flare-ups.” Some articles even suggest that if you get shingles now, it may be a sign that you had asymptotic COVID-19!

  80. Re shingles or any virus (previous post spell checker in com box changed to ‘visual’ to help the team to score points probably.)
    Anyhow, shingles, like many viruses recur and this is often during times of stress or change of environment/ temperature, a move to a different climate, and on and on. It is not possible to say why recurring illnesses or painful recurrent physical injuries flare up, necessarily.

    This is not controversial. Whatever anybody thinks about covid OR shingles.
    It’s hardly surprising that asymptomatic infections did not manifest as covid (by definition) but that other symptoms recurred, such as an acute episode of ‘mechanical’ pain. There is literally nothing interesting to see in such a claim RE asymptomatic covid 19. Only someone grasping for controversy might think it so.
    re Testing;
    Superfluous testing only matters if it is done with ignorance of the individual ordering the test or if the test itself is substandard. That is true of any medical test, pretty much, you could mention.

    The UK has done more tests than any other country excluding the US or India.
    This has been expensive but not useless. Good tests and appropriately interpretation of results is always key in good diagnostics. Statistical commentators know this, if they’re listening to the clinicians or the scientists, or the critical thinkers.

  81. “Good tests and appropriate interpretation of results is always key in good diagnostics.
    Or
    “Good tests and appropriately interpreted results are always key in good diagnostics. ”
    So there!

  82. Joy is now on the record as saying that the COVID-19 vaccine can cause you to develop shingles.

  83. If you’ve had Chicken Pox, are you supposed to be immune to Shingles? That what I heard ages ago, and that it’s better to get the Pox as a kid than get Shingles as an adult, when it’s more painful, etc. I don’t know much about Shingles though.

    I got screwed with Chicken Pox – had it over Spring Break when I would already have been off school anyway, so I never got my bonus week off for Chicken Pox like most kids 🙁

  84. Nope Rudolph, you have a poor understanding of how the body actually works with regards the immune system.
    Shingles is a recurring condition.
    I expect you know this now.

    Recurring diseases and conditions are almost always of causes which are complex and multifactorial.
    You heard that here first, apparently.

  85. Dennis,
    There’s np guarantee as with any virus and inoculation. None are 100%. Same for chicken pox.
    The human body never reads or keeps up with the scientific papers!

    TB (big) doesn’t with certainty prevent TB but it does prevent meningitis as a result of TB.
    Shingles can recur. See herpes zoster virus.
    It infects very specific spinal nerve root, usually in the thorax, where the nerves only supply the patch of skin between the ribs by number, hence the classic pattern of blisters. It can occur elsewhere though, too.
    Very painful can cause permanent neuropathic pain. So it likes very specific conditions, I always found that curious.

  86. TB/ “BCG” not ‘big’
    If you’ve had chicken pox you can also have it a second time!
    Rare though.
    Best catch it when you’re a youngster.
    I recall at aged five being embarrassed by the school ‘nurse’ who wasn’t a nurse, when she “picked up my vest!” to shows my Mum,
    “I don’t think there’s a lot of doubt do you?”
    I was very indignant and still remember it clearly. How dare she, so inappropriate…

  87. So my Pox-Ruined Spring Break of 1983 (It was tragic, I tells ya!) was all for naught, and I can still get Shingles? Oh, well…c’est la vie 🙁

  88. “’Reactivation’ of the varicella zoster virus is exactly what shingles is. If you have not been infected so the virus is just activating the first time, you get Chicken Pox, not shingles. Thus what this article is saying is that the vaccine can’t give you shingles, but it might give you shingles.”

    For many people, it seems that it will give you shingles. It is a well-known side effect of the vexxines by now. Why? Impaired immunity?

  89. Herpes zoster is no more mysterious than other common viruses. Your google check reveals nothing we didn’t know.
    What is mysterious is why it recurs and when it does so, what causes it.
    I think a study of ’cause’ in its deepest sense with regards to biology and physiology might help you understand why you think things are so simple when in fact they’re not and vice versa.

    It is Rudolph who said that “I” said “covid causes shingles”. Don’t get mixed up with all the miscomprehension, misconstruction and general lying and misquoting.

  90. As for the progression of viral infection:
    You can indeed have chicken pox as an adult where pox form all over the body, in the scalp, in the eyes…
    Shingles infection is specifically an infection of a single nerve root and blisters form in a neat “geographical” area which is related to one single dermatome. It is painful because it causes firing of sensory nerve which supplies the same area of skin. Neuropathic pain is painful, by definition. It manifests as shooting pain and burning sensation.
    It can and does recur. It can also cause prolonged neuropathic pain symptoms and complicate other mechanical and non mechanical painful complexes that happen to occur in a given individual.

  91. Sorry Joy. Perhaps I misread you.

    You had said that Shingles can be caused when the varicella zoster infection recurs due to stress on the immune system, and that even an asymptomatic case of COVID-19 could case shingles in this way.

    Now, it could be that you somehow believe that COVID vaccines do not cause any stress on the immune system, despite health professionals assuring us that severe side effects are a way that “the vaccine is working.” But, charitably, I assumed that you had at least a little idea of how vaccines worked.

    Similarly, it could be that you are logically incapable of seeing how the statements “if your immune system is stressed, then a previous varicella zoster infection can recur and give you shingles” and “the COVID-19 vaccines stress your immune system” together imply “the COVID-19 vaccines can cause you to develop shingles.” It is possible that you are incapable of understanding the most basic of logic.

    I apologize for assuming that you were not completely ignorant and were able to do basic reasoning. If you prefer, I can start from the possibility that you are an ignorant dolt in future interactions.

  92. Rudolph,
    You are just plan wrong in those claims / assumptions about aims and attributions of medical input generally, as well as being wrong about my take on the matter.

    The clear assertion that I say covid causes shingles infection, is simply ridiculous.
    It reveals a deep level of sarcasm on your part or in fact a total inability to understand simple clinical matters, let alone comprehend what you read from an opponent on the internet

  93. You had said that Shingles can be caused when the varicella zoster infection recurs due to stress on the immune system, and that even an asymptomatic case of COVID-19 could case shingles in this way.
    I think if you use the word trigger or exacerbate, you might find less controversy, or ‘shock’ as I infer you seem to have done from your initial reading.
    Obviously! shingles is an infection caused by a specific virus.
    Now, it could be that you somehow believe that COVID vaccines do not cause any stress on the immune system, despite health professionals assuring us that severe side effects are a way that “the vaccine is working.” But, charitably, I assumed that you had at least a little idea of how vaccines worked.
    That part appears to go off piste. ..
    The first part there is a bad guess, followed by a loaded statement which says more about your own mindset than answers any questions of interest.

    The last part really is a conclusion you draw based on your own lack of understanding of not just me, but of what is true about vaccination.

    The attitude of your remark is no more than supercilious and without reason.

    Regarding “side effects”. Let’s not pretend that definitions and terminology is understood at this stage between so diametrically opposed sides of this. I don’t have a problem with vaccination. You do, your side does.

    Lastly for future reference, the severity of pain experienced is not directly proportional to the deadliness or “gravity” of a condition. In most cases it is actually inversely proportional.
    Obviously shingles was horrible for you. I wasn’t claiming otherwise or attempting to downgrade that in any way.

  94. Joy: “The clear assertion that I say covid causes shingles infection, is simply ridiculous.” If you’d said the vexxines cause shingles, you’d be right. Well known adverse event by now. Hep C and various cancers come back as well.

    Rudolph Harrier: “If you prefer, I can start from the possibility that you are an ignorant dolt in future interactions.” You are a wise man.

  95. Philemon, your arrogance is spectacular.
    Shingles is caused by an infection with a virus.

    You don’t understand ’cause’, clearly. That explains quite bit.
    Try to make comments without he ad hominem, as it lowers the tone and does your point no favours.

  96. Joy: “Like an oil change! It’s the same kind of reason why babies eyes turn from blue/violet to boring colours after a time. Toxins deposited in the iris.” And Joy: “Yak’s milk’s pink!”

    Joy, you are a weird Gawd helpus. It’s not an ad hominem; it’s just a fact.

    Vexxines cause shingles. It is now a well known adverse event due to the vexx.

  97. No Malcom, Phlemon, singles is caused by an infection. It is necessary for the disease to develop. With or without covid. You are confused about cause and matters of complexity with regards to human immunity.

    The personal attacks are self evident

    I’d say the original discussion, which you lost, is about a month to six weeks ago. You haven’t desisted yet and still think a throw away comment which was light hearted is in some way to be used as a riff or a salient point.

    I think that’s pretty creepy at this point. Couple that with your repeated requests to find out where I live and work?

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