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CDC Lies To Itself, And You, On Vax Immunity; The Lancet Study Which Shows Vaccination Does Little; More! — Coronavirus Update CIV

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THE PURGES BEGIN

See the whole thread. Doc with natural acquired immunity after catching coronadoom from masked vaccinated patient. He will be fired because he, the doctor, didn’t get vaccinated.

Why?

Well, ask Experts.

They have decreed that even thinking about natural acquired immunity is forbidden. Thus are decades and decades of medicine tossed into the flames to assuage fears of the easily addled, who are everywhere in charge.

This doctor is one of many. It may be happening to you. It is happening to my family. It is happening everywhere. They are trying to starve us out, force us to obey.

Because Experts.

Don’t believe that? Read on.

CDC IMPOSSIBLE REPORT

Astonishingly, the CDC is allowing themselves to believe that the immunity of vax alone is superior to having had the disease alone. If this were truly so, the vax would be a miracle.

But it’s asinine, especially given vax results, which we’ll examine below. Here’s their new “study”: “Laboratory-Confirmed COVID-19 Among Adults Hospitalized with COVID-19–Like Illness with Infection-Induced or mRNA Vaccine-Induced SARS-CoV-2 Immunity — Nine States, January–September 2021.” Thanks to Stephen Shipman for the tip.

They looked at hospitalizations for “COVID-19–like illness”, which may or may not have been caused by coronadoom, for 18+ years, given prior disease or prior vax, either coming 90–179 days before hospitalization.

The outcome was positive covid test. After being in hospital for covid-like illness.

Right away a huge flaw presents itself. If prior disease alone conferred superior immunity, as in sensible, then we would not see many of these people in hospital. We’d only see the real sickies, the most susceptible. The comparison group therefore is wrong.

That’s important because of second flaw. Second group was vaxxed “with no previous documented SARS-CoV-2 infection.”

Documented.

Many people got the doom and didn’t know it. They never got a test to confirm. So in this vaxxed group there is some unknown proportion of prior disease patients who were both vaxxed and had prior infection. Some in the prior infection group were there “verified” by “rapid antigen tests”, which means it’s very likely there were some false positives. I.e. people who did not have the doom but were said to have it.

A smaller possibility of bad sampling is patients in hospital for reasons other than covid-like illness, but who had covid. Perhaps, say, cancer patients who were admitted for symptoms. Who knows.

Anyway, it is plausible, in the near term, vax+prior disease is superior to prior disease immunity alone.

So both the missing prior covid patients who never became patients and this “documented” nonsense accounted for their shocking results.

The whole thing stinks, and should have cast a noisome odor even into the noble nostrils of government Experts. How, especially given what we have seen in the real-world performance of these vexxines, could they have allowed to believe such a miraculous proposition that their drug better than Nature? When this has never been so before? And has no plausible reasons to suppose it could be true?

Our Expertocracy.

Boss Experts (we saw the divisions last week) command, “Go out ye and find the evidence for which we seek” and, lo, anxious-to-please midwits rise to the challenge, say “Yes masters”, and we get papers like this.

Science marches on.

Update We saw yesterday in the comments this foolish paper is being used to justify vex mandates even after acquired immunity has been reached. Our rulers are idiots or evil. No inbetween.

LIST OF PAPERS SHOWING ACQUIRED IMMUNITY SUPERIOR

From the Brownstone Institute: 102 papers showing acquired immunity just as amazing as olden days (pre-2021) scientists thought.

REAL-LIFE VEX PERFORMANCE

We first had Experts say one jab conferred almost 100% immunity (see last week’s update). Then we had Expert promises that two shots gave 95% immunity. Then the same Experts said it was three shots, not two, that were sufficient. But they dropped the efficacy number. They no longer said what glory awaited you on the other side of the third jab.

Then even more Experts, like in Israel, said four shots. Now Moderna is saying annual.

We have come to the point at which we here promised: these vexxines would be like with flu: poor efficacy and annual. But the push for mandatory vaccination rolls on.

Comes the paper: “Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study”, by Singanayagam and others in Lancet.

Gist: they recruited “index cases” then looked at the contacts of these people. Those that got infected, presumably from the index cases, were added to “secondary attack rate”.

We analysed transmission risk by vaccination status for 231 contacts exposed to 162 epidemiologically linked delta variant-infected index cases. We compared viral load trajectories from fully vaccinated individuals with delta infection (n=29) with unvaccinated individuals with delta (n=16), alpha (B.1.1.7; n=39), and pre-alpha (n=49) infections.

First, the good news for vaxxine mavens: “The SAR in household contacts exposed to the delta variant was 25% (95% CI 18–33) for fully vaccinated individuals compared with 38% (24–53) in unvaccinated individuals.”

Which is also the bad news. In classical hypothesis testing, since those confidence intervals overlap, they would have to report “NO DIFFERENCE.” Right, wee p-value fans? Right? No statistical difference, that is. The real preditive difference is anyway minor accounting for the same size.

And now for the real bad news for the fire ’em crowd:

SAR among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% [95% CI 15–35] for vaccinated vs 23% [15–31] for unvaccinated). 12 (39%) of 31 infections in fully vaccinated household contacts arose from fully vaccinated epidemiologically linked index cases, further confirmed by genomic and virological analysis in three index case–contact pairs.

Ouchie Fauchi!

The vaccine, it does nothing. Or nothing much. As predicted.

Oh, some are trying to make juice with this amazing discovery:

Fully vaccinated individuals with delta variant infection had a faster (posterior probability >0.84) mean rate of viral load decline (0.95 log10 copies per mL per day) than did unvaccinated individuals with pre-alpha (0.69), alpha (0.82), or delta (0.79) variant infections.

Aside: I loudly applaud their use of putting the model in predictive form. I mean it.

Direct: Go on and celebrate this trivial, trivial, mild difference in clearance rates, which has a conditional chance of 84% of being real. Go on!

There has been no real-world evidence yet that warrants making vaccines mandatory.

WANT MORE PROOF?

Our friend Eugyppius discusses the real effects of the virus, including another Lancet paper “Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccination Against Risk of Symptomatic Infection, Hospitalization, and Death Up to 9 Months: A Swedish Total-Population Cohort Study“.

Here’s the main story:

Not only does the vax efficacy decrease over time, as predicted, but it appears to cause harm. As is not unexpected. It is designed to cause harm, as all vaccines are. The hope was the harm would be short lasting. This does not seem to be so.

Go to his place to read the full breakdown.

YOU ARE NOT OBSOLETE

WE TOLD YOU SO

All the warnings we gave were dismissed as outrageous or conspiracy theories. All the warnings we gave came true, or are coming true.

Yet we will still be ignored. Because fear trumps any amount of fact.

Isn’t Science amazing?

Science and Experts have built a New Berlin E-Wall Around Canada.

ANON GETS VAXXED: HORROR STORY

Last week we met Anon, who was “an autoimmune complex patient”, on many meds, a single mother dead scared of getting the vax. She sends us this update, which I ask you to send others.

Good afternoon I hope you had a great weekend. I just wanted to send a partial follow-up from my vaccine. I have to admit, that when I didn’t walk out of there, turn green or die immediately, I stupidly thought maybe I would be OK.

Well, I was wrong.

This weekend I spent in the hospital due to some “inflammation” that caused me to lose neuro-muscular control. I could not speak clearly, I could not control my movements, I could not walk! It was one of the scariest times of my life. My brain was working so I was aware of everything but I could not control things.

I called my son and even though he could not understand me he knew something was wrong and he called 911. It probably took 10 minutes to control my hand enough to call him. When 911 arrived, the medic said more than once she had seen this before after vaccination. It was like a knowing look when they asked what have you done you and I would share I just had the vaccine it was a knowing “ahhh” and head nod.

I went to [certain hospital] as even though they are over the top on vaccines, they are also the best medicine in the area. Over half of the providers who saw me within some manner without saying it, confirm the vaccine was the issue. Of course I had a ton of x-rays, bloodwork, CT and MRI done. I mentioned this as there were some findings not directly related to my reason for being there but I was pretty sure did not exist prior to my vaccine.

As I recently had [an unrelated female procedure], I had a recent chest x-ray and blood work as comparisons. Interesting thing was, pre-vaccine they were all normal. In the hospital they were not. I do not know what evil has been injected in my body to keep my job.

At this point, there is nothing I can do. I just hope you will warn people. This is not what they say it is. As I’m sure most your readers already know that, just please remind them to stay strong. Somehow we have to take our country back but I do not know how or when. I pray it’s soon.

NUMBERS

First, as I have been predicting for months, the “cases” and deaths have had a slight uptick, caused by states in the north. As predicted. Did I say I predicted it? If not, let me know, and I’ll remind you I predicted it.

Don’t forget that drop off at the end is caused by late reporting.

Just wait until January, when all this peaks again. Let’s hear Experts sing their Song of the Vaccine then.

Hey, Vaccine! Kill anybody lately?

ALL-CAUSE (every caused) deaths in various ages.

So the young aren’t dying at any different rate than normal. Which is nice, and I’m happy to report it.

Now let’s do the same ages for attributed doom deaths.

Say, ain’t that interesting. Doom deaths are shooting up and up and up for 15-24 year olds.

But since all deaths aren’t increasing, it must mean deaths from other causes are down.

My own theory—ready?—is the vaccine is doing the killing, and being put down as doom deaths. But it’s killing the weak kids, the kids and young adults with comorbidities. Kids and young adults who might have otherwise died soon of other things, but pushed over the edge by the vaccine. And maybe even the doom, in some cases.

I won’t bother showing it, but there’s still no (real) flu.

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  1. At this point it seems clear that the talk of effectiveness was only there to get people to take the first dose. Once they started vexxing up, sunk costs and social pressure would do the rest. If you’ve already taken two shots and spent months attacking those who did not as dangerous lunatics, it will take a tremendous amount of willpower to not take the booster. Even if you were told that it only has 10% effectiveness, or worse. You’ve spent months making your self image revolve around not being an “anti-vaxxer,” and now the actually purpose of the vexxine doesn’t matter any more.

    You can see this in how people getting the boosters interact with the world. They are still terrified of COVID and act no more confident after getting the booster. But despite not really believing that the booster will do anything for them, they are even more terrified of not getting it.

  2. HEK-293 was used to test Pfizer and Moderna

    PER.C6 was used in the development and production of J&J

  3. Why will he be fired? Your freaking government hates you and you sat on your backside doing nothing about it. That’s why. YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELVES.

    People in New York can watch their houses burn to the ground, buildings go up in flames and no ambulances run. They can go to unstaffed hospitals and janitors doing the doctoring work because janitors are obedient and took the vexx. I hope they enjoy their hateful government.

    Seems to me using a fetal cell line that started decades ago as an excuse to not vaccinate is equal to refusing ANYTHING vaguely tied to slavery, including the USA. The current cells are clones. Do you really live your life going back decades and refusing to touch anything the evil ones made?????? How do you avoid the results of using Chinese and Irish to build the railroad? Do you buy nothing made over 10 miles from home?????

    Psaki was vexxed (or was that hexxed?) and has Covid. Now, ignore reality and get that vaccination.

  4. **Briggs writes {My own theory—ready?—is the vaccine is doing the killing, and being put down as doom deaths. But it’s killing the weak kids, the kids and young adults with comorbidities. Kids and young adults who might have otherwise died soon of other things, but pushed over the edge by the vaccine. And maybe even the doom, in some cases.} Makes clear sense to me. Sabotaging natural auto-immunity with exogenous chemistry ~ means existing system vulnerabilities cannot be countered as robustly. Conclusion: The V. is indirectly culling the weak, and infirm. The deviousness of this is beyond fathoming.

    **On the general topic of unsupportable “scientific claims”: Here is an interesting porthole into politics, folly and pettiness in the academic peer-reviewed-publication universe: https://retractionwatch.com/
    Reader comments sections are the real attraction

  5. I had an exchange on the NextDoor app with a bunch of Covidians- a woman was appalled that there were unmasked people in the local convenience store- it’s clear that the average pro- Panicker believes that this virus is the Black Death- nothing can unconvince them. Here in MA, the state board of Ed has just extended the mask mandate for school kids (including athletes while they’re playing indoor sports, volleyball, basketball, and hockey) until mid-January (and it’ll be extended again because of the inevitable spike in “cases”) and the push is on to vaccinate kids.

    I wonder if we, in a regular flu season, tested like we do for Corona-chan if we couldn’t gin up the same level of panic.

    I’m very convinced by the guy at “Hail to You”- he argues the Corona Panic is a new religion

  6. Psaki was just doing her part to help keep the psyop going before taking off on vacay while the Pretendsident is away.

    For the greater good!

  7. Regarding the HEK-293 (HEK meaning “human embryonic kidney), and the use of murdered baby kidney cells for vexxine development, awhile back I posted on Briggs’ site, an interview by John Henry Westin, of Lifesite News, of a gal involved in vexxine development. In fact, I may have posted it twice, so I’ll try to find it and post it yet again.

    The interviewee says that the number, “293“ indicates that at least 293 fresh baby kidneys were used in “developing” this vexxine. (They have to be fresh, and they can’t be tainted by pain killer, either.) Others involved in vexxine development admit, often grudgingly and reluctantly, that it wasn’t just one fetus from the 1970s, as they pretend.

    This is another example of accepting their false premise, in this case that they give a crap about human life. This is about power, and control, and as Bill Gates et al. have openly admitted on video, about ultimately reducing the human population.

    Here is an excellent short essay published by American Thinker, entitled “Build back Bolshevik”. It begins with this:

    “In January 2020 BC (Before COVID) the American economy was running like a well-oiled machine and enjoying growth rates not seen in years. Unemployment for black people was at all-time lows. Inflation remained a non-issue. And America had once again become energy independent, after decades of shortages and wars linked to her reliance on imported oil.

    To look successful, all Joe Biden needed to do upon being handed the presidency was to emerge from his basement, fiddle with a few dials to look busy, and simply ride a post-COVID economic boom back to new heights.

    But as Barack Obama might say: Never underestimate Joe’s ability to fox things up.”

    The article gets even better from there:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/build_back_bolshevik.html

  8. Ganderson: “I had an exchange on the NextDoor app with a bunch of Covidians- a woman was appalled that there were unmasked people in the local convenience store…Here in MA, the state board of Ed has just extended the mask mandate for school kids (including athletes while they’re playing indoor sports, volleyball, basketball, and hockey) until mid-January…”

    It’s times like this I’m glad I live in a “backward” flyover state! Went to half-a-dozen different retail outlets in the past week (rare for me – I hated shopping even in non-Covid times!). Customer mask usage was probably about 20% – mostly just employees masked who are obviously forced by their brain-dead employers. Since governor’s lawless “mandate” expired in June (on top of being ruled illegal in court that same week), I’ve never been bugged anywhere by anyone – employee or other customer – for not wearing a muzzle. Plus, our legislature recently over-rode Governor’s veto in order to get rid of all mask mandates – including for schools – until at least June 2023.

    “I wonder if we, in a regular flu season, tested like we do for Corona-chan if we couldn’t gin up the same level of panic.”

    Absolutely. They could gin-up a panic over basically anything with the right amount of testing, plus media and political collusion to instill 24/7 fear and panic in the populace (combined with various means of suborning companies to deplatform people and control information contrary to the Regime Narrative). I used to wonder how it was possible to dupe so many people so easily to believe in things like Bolshevism, National Socialism, etc. After seeing how things have played out with Covid, no need to wonder any longer: At bottom, most people are basically mindless sheep, easily lead and manipulated, and willing to do whatever some ostensible authority figure tells them (see also Milgram’s experiment on how easily people can be manipulated into inflicting deliberate pain if told it’s in the name of “Science”). And the methods available to governments and corporations now are FAR more sophisticated and insidious than they had back in the 1920s and 1930s.

  9. these days there are some decent treatments for the debilitating paranoia, anxiety, and fear from which you suffer… (or maybe you just need more testosterone?)
    #JustSayin

  10. ‘A hill worth dying on’: Expert explains how aborted baby cells taint COVID vaccines – LifeSite

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/a-hill-worth-dying-on-expert-explains-how-aborted-baby-cells-taint-covid-vaccines/

    This contains the video that was banned on YouTube.

    Ganderson, I had the same experience on our NextDoor site: A “Karen” was concerned that customers might not wear masks for an outdoors food truck in a grocery store parking lot, and I posted my message about how filthy and dangerous masks are, laden with bacteria, impeding airflow, increasing CO2 levels and so forth, and not doing a thing to stop viruses; My post was immediately removed, and I was warned not to post any more “Covid Misinformation.”

    We need to hang in there, the truth is gradually filtering out to the sheeples. I always speak up (strongly and politely) against masks and Covid Vexxines at every opportunity, and have ordered a bumper sticker that says “A masked child is an abused child.” On that note:

    Face masks cause children to inhale six times the safe limit of carbon dioxide, study finds – LifeSite

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/face-masks-cause-children-to-inhale-six-times-the-safe-limit-of-carbon-dioxide-study-finds/

  11. “So in this vaxxed group there is some unknown proportion of prior disease patients who were both vaxxed and had prior infection.”

    In the study referenced below between Wales/Swedish researchers, about 30 percent of the blood samples tested exhibited T Cell + antibody response immunity. This was early Dec 2020; before vaccines were introduced.

    “The SAR in household contacts exposed to the delta variant was 25% (95% CI 18–33) for fully vaccinated individuals compared with 38% (24–53) in unvaccinated individuals.”

    Also, same study indicated that (pre-vax) persons cohabiting with a COVID19 family member had about a 70% chance of gaining natural (as in T Cell) immunity. This would indicate that either the estimates (28 to 35%) are too low or that asymptomatic transmission within households is a significant factor that perhaps was not measured by the study.

    Memory T Cell immunity is the gold standard method to assess this issue; most immunologists would accept that there is no correlation between antibodies and immunity, T Cells + antibody response is the best measure.

    If our blood contained antibodies to all the diseases we had ever contracted all the time then our blood simply couldn’t flow – it would be too congested. Antibodies are single use only – they then die away and are cleared until they are called again by our immune system; memory T Cells/B Cells.

    This has been a puzzle for many immunologists; as vaccine efficiency is based upon antibodies only, which is not a correlate.

    https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/e89cbef5-70d5-4555-89a9-32f2402dd1aa/downloads/RobustTcellImmunityCell_Sekine_household.pdf?ver=1635546794292

  12. Jan,

    “**…an interesting porthole into politics, folly and pettiness in the academic peer-reviewed-publication universe: https://retractionwatch.com/
    Reader comments sections are the real attraction”

    Theoretically…however, note that the powers-that-be at Retraction Watch want nothing to do with monitoring “science” involving “climate change” or “global warming.”

    Try interacting with the gate-keepers at Retraction Watch on “scientific” misconduct in “climate science.”

    Whoops! You’ll learn quickly that their focus on keeping science honest has very clearly defined bounds.

    Oransky has the latitude to link to, and comment on, numerous issues in “science.” And he does so, for many issues–rotten peer-review, replication, and others. Any fair-minded observer would believe that this bully pulpit could be used to elucidate the apparent frauds in “climate science,” beginning with the grand-daddy of them all, Mann.

    Instead Oransky, when he mentions Mann at all, refers to him as “a prominent climate scientist who has sued the National Review for defamation…”

    “As Mann points out, transparency is important in science. “Anyone who truly cares about the research can and should review the published papers and underlying data, directly evaluating a study’s methodologies, analyses, and conclusions. But seeking thousands of emails serves only to stifle collaboration and discourage the frank, creative exchange of ideas, and chill the candor needed during the confidential peer review process.”

    While the idea of Retraction Watch is admirable, the PC guard rails they maneuver between are not. Some “science” is more “sciencey” than others, maybe?

  13. Double masked, double jabbed, spends her time surrounded by masked and fully jabbed people… catches covid… Hey could’ve been worse, imagine if she wasn’t double jabbed?! Imagine if no one else aroud her was doibly poked either?! That’s right, just imagine!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fully-vaccinated-white-house-presssec-psaki-tests-positive-covid

    Uh oh!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-delays-approval-moderna-jab-kids-more-safety-concerns-emerge
    ^ But ah… who cares? Think of the greater good!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cdc-panel-recommends-pfizer-vaccine-5-11-year-old-children

    BwaHHAHAHAHA!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/shanghai-disneyland-sparks-chaos-33000-vistors-undergo-covid-testing

    Bu…but… the fak checkas said…
    https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/health-healing/japan-drops-vax-rollout-goes-to-ivermectin-ends-covid-almost-overnight

    Big crack in the dam!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-meps-protest-oppressive-vaccine-passports-question-why-political-elites-push-agenda

    You don’t say?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/re-imposing-covid-restrictions-would-cost-uk-ps18-billion

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! STOP! I’M DYING HOHOHO!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/leaked-government-report-finds-vaccine-passports-could-actually-increase-spread-covid

    Joeholio digs deeper into the doo-doo.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/millions-federal-contractors-get-more-flexibility-over-vaxx-mandate-enforcement-white

    F#@* YOUR CONSCIENCES! THEY ARE GETTING IN THE WAY OF SAVING JUST ONE LIFE!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blood-boiling-performance-illinois-lawmakers-ensure-punishment-vax-mandate-resisters

    When life gives you Don Lemons…
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/don-lemon-heckled-after-being-caught-vacationing-maskless-florida

    Would the government ever hold back vital evidence that could’ve brought peaceful resolution a year ago??? Well… better late than never, right guys? What else could they possibly hide that might also be just an obvious??? They don’t so that all the time, do they???
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-sat-bombshell-footage-kyle-rittenhouse-shooting

    PRISON TIME FOR BRITISH VEXXINE HERETICS! DO NOT CONTRADICT THE SCIENCE ™!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/brits-who-post-false-information-about-vaccines-could-be-jailed-two-years

    Uuuhhh…Ooohhh… But it’s rare, right?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/americans-who-received-1-dose-jj-jab-35-more-likely-develop-rare-blood-clots

    How Pfizer does THE SCIENCE ™!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/falsified-data-pfizer-vaccine-trial-had-major-flaws-whistleblower-tells-peer-reviewed

    A droplet of good news…
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/federal-judge-blocks-hospital-putting-unvaccinated-workers-unpaid-leave

    You are watching CNN… the most trusted name in fakery in the bakery!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cnn-host-inadvertently-exposes-covid-crisis-theater-we-took-our-masks-just-photo

  14. I ran across a listing of mask related studies, which I didn’t bookmark. Anyway, the most interesting thing that I saw was a claim that the minimum infectious dose of the SARS corona viruses circulating now is 300 virions. If true, there is absolutely no sense in wearing any mask indoors. Even N95s. Of course, there is less sense ;p wearing one outdoors. As a comparison, if I am remembering correctly, 1 gram of human feces contains 1 to 10 billion bacterial cells, unknown numbers of virions, undigested matter (mostly cellulosic plant material), bile, some salts and water; and the excreta of those bacteria, plus fungi and their excreta. The most infectious bacterium that I can recall had a minimum infectious dose of 1000. Most are millions to billions.

  15. Kent,

    Thanks for sharing your sharp insight; and more’s the pity that Retracted.O is moonlighting as a shadow gatekeeper. I’ve had doubts concerning their Patron – The MacArthur Foundation ~ of Genius Grant – fame for some time. ¶ My interest in the politics of retraction began with a Lancet piece on middle east politics which was disappeared (cancelled) with great fanfare. It continued following the saga of retracted publications by Astrophysicist/mathematician Valentina Zharkova (Northumbria University) whose initial analytical editorials on Solar Minimums. planetary orientations, and gas architecture physics infuriated the Carbon Crisis Crowd. Global Warming is apparently immune from challenge by reason in the peer-o-sphere ~ as it is an article of faith. // Jan

  16. The CDC HAD to change the definition of a “vaccine”… horrible anti-vexxine racists were using it to distinguish between vaccines and vexxines!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/foiad-cdc-emails-our-definition-vaccine-problematic

    German Companies Creating Segregated Canteens For Vaccinated And Unvaccinated

    Bayer also announced that its employees have also started forming work groups that “exclude unvaccinated staff.”

    As we highlighted back in January, German authorities announced that COVID lockdown rulebreakers would be arrested and detained in refugee camps located across the country.

    During a meeting with other world leaders in Rome, Angela Merkel engaged in COVID security theater by briefly wearing a mask when she exited her vehicle, only to remove it as soon as she entered the building.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/german-companies-creating-segregated-canteens-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated

    JUST WHEN EVERYONE THOUGHT ITALIANS WERE GOING TO SUBMIT … THEY REVOLTED
    https://youtu.be/s8bOOKrKgzk

    Puzzer is our man!
    https://www.fromrome.info/2021/11/03/goldmansachs-dictatorship-attempts-to-crush-popular-revolt-by-expelling-puzzer-from-rome/
    https://www.fromrome.info/2021/11/03/draghi-orders-puzzer-to-return-home-to-trieste-by-9-pm/

    Uh oh!
    https://theexpose.uk/2021/11/01/fda-committee-members-who-approved-jab-for-kids-have-financial-ties-to-pfizer/

    NewZealanders finally doing something.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Kukicat7/status/1454555578735464457

    The vexxine goes to work on Ireland!
    https://gript.ie/highest-covid-numbers-in-hospital-since-march-despite-91-jabbed/

    Less than half still believe in the Fauci.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/majority-americans-now-say-psychopath-serial-liar-tony-fauci-resign/

    To be vexxined is like military service! Be a good Catholic patriot or be daaammnneedd!
    https://mobile.twitter.com/pontificatormax/status/1455878463450226695

  17. Johnno: “The CDC HAD to change the definition of a ‘vaccine’… horrible anti-vexxine racists were using it to distinguish between vaccines and vexxines!!!?”

    Oh, it went back further than that. How do you think they got these injections classified as “vaccines” to begin with, and thereby gained liability protection? They then had to change the definition of “vaccines” yet again because the vexxines were still not “effective” even with the watered down definition. They’re trying to dance around legalities with changing definitions

    Why do you think that now they are trying to get those injections approved for kids as a step towards getting it into the vaccination schedule for kids with indemnification per the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. They’re trying for fait accompli on that one.

    The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Anyone who pushes the vexxines deserves a picket line around their house.

  18. philemon, it only makes sense in two ways!

    This all really is a mass sterilization/depopulation agenda with mass-tracking roll-outs.

    Or they are so deeply in the doo-doo, the only option is to keep playing pretend, dig in harder and maintain the narrative to the bitter end which includes the theater that children need the stuff too, or else we’re killing them!

    It could also be both – the murderers at the top of the pyramid, and the hapless buffoon accomplices who realize they are screwed, because if the top of the pyramid doesn’t kill them for stepping out of line and not following orders, the bottom half certainly will when they find out, and they know the top will make them take the fall for it, for they understand how the game is played!

    It all only makes sense from that singular standpoint. Profits are far too little a motive, especially when you consider that the WEF plans to destroy the money and the economy that makes it all worth something. All the shortages, the unemployment, the walking-off the jobs, the missing medical and essential staff, has all been gamed and is now ramping up according to schedule.

    Our only hope is that some are getting cold feet and are beginning to worry that things aren’t going so perfectly that it won’t cost them something, or that they’ll be able to maintain control. Also they all don’t trust each other, as evidenced by the hesitancy of polarized world leaders to accept each others vexxines. The top of the pyramid is both united and divided.

    Also the recent DUNE is a great movie, even if only half the story, but the sequel has been green-lit. Support non-woke movies whenever Hollywood allows one to slip by. The top’o’the’world is much like what is depicted therein. Some suckers in high offices are very well being gifted a trap. Only unlike the noble protagonists in Dune, they deserve what’s coming!

  19. Something strange is afoot! Covid cases are down, but absolutely everything else is up! Whatever could it be???
    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/something-really-strange-happening-hospitals-all-over-america
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-doctors-claim-covid-jabs-causing-immunosuppression-and-the-governments-own-data-shows-this/

    Something strange is happening! There’s a shortage of headstones for graveyards! Must be those supply chains… only the finest rocks imported from China will do to help families get closure…
    https://thecatholicspirit.com/news/nation-and-world/supply-chain-delays-dramatically-affect-cemetery-headstone-industry/

    Something strange is occurring! Why would Switzerland need 50 police officers to beat and arrest one family for refusing to discriminate against the unvexxed at their restaurant?
    https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/11/03/famlous-swiss-restaurant-refuses-to-discriminate-against-the-unvaxxed-50-cops-beat-up-their-family/

    Something strange is afront! Why would the Canadian provinces of Ontario and Quebec drop their vexxine mandates for health-care workers??? Don’t they believe in the cause?
    https://blazingcatfur.ca/2021/11/03/covid-19-quebec-drops-vaccination-mandate-for-health-care-workers/

    Something haram is manifesting! Vexxine adoption is slowing down in Italy. Could it be that they finally got everyone? No! This means Italy needs to move from mandates to mandatory vexxining of all!
    https://www.thelocal.it/20211103/italy-ready-to-consider-mandatory-covid-vaccinations/

    Something horrible is happening! Victories against vexxinations are being had!
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-iowa-law-ensures-religious-and-medical-exemptions-from-covid-shot-mandates/
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/absolutely-forbidden-to-give-covid-shots-to-children-and-youth-jewish-court-rules/

    Something aghast is ablast! Why would anyone suspect vexxines have anything to do with so many young people dying?!
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-politician-demands-police-investigate-spike-in-youths-dying-after-covid-jab/

    Something stinks in the sink! Why did Biden change his pants at the Vatican? Will they ever have vexxines for this stuff? I mean, why not at this point? It’s just another part of the immune system.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/bidens_accident.html

    Something’s nigh in the sky! A fully vexxed man dropped dead! Of Covid! Just imagine how much worse things could’ve been if he wasn’t vexxed! The other passengers should be thankful!
    https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/fully-vaccinated-airline-passenger-dies-mid-flight-found-infected-covid/

    Something’s screwhan’d in Wuhan! China just can’t stop the Covids despite how much they test and vexx and lockdown!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/china-defends-covid-zero-strategy-while-struggling-stamp-out-worst-outbreak-wuhan

  20. Profits for the pharmaceuticals are a big motive. No liability, woohoo! Problem for them is that the no liability can turn on a dime if public opinion goes south. Politicians and judges will go with that. So, it is only so good as the propaganda holds. And the propaganda is not holding for the most important sectors of the economy.

    Johnno: “This all really is a mass sterilization/depopulation agenda with mass-tracking roll-outs.” I could see some members of the WEF being stupid enough for that. Most of those people are trust-fund babies who have never actually worked at anything useful.

    Let’s not go with false dilemmas. There are many scenarios, only limited by one’s imagination. That said, I see this, like many policies, as over-determined. There is a confluence of many interests at play here: vaccine profit, social engineering control, fear propaganda, political maneuvering, vaccine passports, depopulation, liquidating unfunded public insurance liabilities, more profits from treating vaccine injuries, energy rationing, inducing mass psychosis for totalitarianism.

    The only problem is that it is not working.

  21. Philemon, the thing is that with profits alone you wouldn’t need to go as far as they have.
    1. There are already enough suckers who’ll take it following the media alone, and would do so for years to come.
    2. They could easily pull this off with not-so-dangerous non-experimental crap or even some placebo even under EUA.
    3. All you’d need is censorship and propaganda.

    It is the coercion to get vexxed at this level that will upset the apple cart. It’s not as if the public can prevent them from wasting money. Never has, never will. Ranging from the military budgets to green nonsense. They know that if it were just a spending issue, most of us would sigh and walk away.

    They could have lied they had an antigen and this was a typical standard vaccine based on info from China and still blacklisted the ingredients and be granted EUA. Not only would this be cheaper, it would have still garnered the same income, even with the booster narrative.

    There could be other motives involved. The scope of it means large scale coordination and everyone in on it wants their piece of the pie. But they could still do it with a less harmful substance. That’s the key to this. Not to mention being run by the same jackasses who openly discuss that they need to reduce populations on a grand scale.

    It’s possible that they also could use this as an opportunity for a mass experiment of unproven technology they didn’t think would be that dangerous, but this is difficult to accept because it is not new and they have long been aware of the problems.

    Also according to the scenarios they gamed at their events, vexxine injuries on a large scale were factored in. So in terms of the vexxine it is intentional that they expect it to harm.

    So I suspect that the results are the opposite way around. They likely expected far greater harm, but a combination of greater resistance and underestimating the body’s immune system against their product led to fewer bodies than they’d expected.

    It could also be possible that the conspirators didn’t think their puppet politicians and media would go so far and are true believers running on automatic. But they can’t be true believers because of the great lengths they go to duck’n’weave and even distance themselves and forfeit power to some other medical bureaucrat. But also their scenarios gamed precisely all the measures put in place.

    The end goal might not even be the mass death itself, but mass poverty leading to mass dependency on the final solution of the great reset. But the deaths are one leg of a plan to destabalize everything ushering in morr central planning.

    So yed, there are many places this could go, but the harm by vexxines looks to be deliberate. And it needed to be done hard and fast before anyone caught on. But it is here where they miscalculated. Hence the correction efforts to control the internet and media and in some places, increased insanity by government slapstick efforts.

  22. Airport Disruptions Possible As Biden Vaccine Mandate For TSA Workers Looms: Lawmakers
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/airport-disruptions-possible-biden-vaccine-mandate-tsa-workers-looms-lawmakers

    Disgusting Garbage Piles Up In NYC After De Blasio Sent Sanitation Workers Home For Refusing Vaccines
    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/disgusting-garbage-piles-nyc-after-de-blasio-sent-sanitation-workers-home-refusing

    Pfizer Vax Trial Being Probed After Whistleblower Exposes ‘Falsified Data’, According To Contractor
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/whistleblower-reports-falsified-data-and-other-flaws-pfizer-vax-trial-being-investigated

    Vexxine issues? Naahhh, that was covid all along! What can’t it do?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/groundbreaking-israeli-study-shows-how-covid-proteins-attack-heart-and-blood-vessels

    “According to Axios, President Biden is planning to announce Thursday that employers with more than 100 workers on their payroll must guarantee that their workers are fully vaccinated, or tested weekly, by Jan. 4, 2022.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/white-house-expands-vaccine-mandate-cover-80-million-workers

  23. Ann Cherry,

    Face masks cause children to inhale six times the safe limit of carbon dioxide, study finds – LifeSite

    The article you link to says the study was retracted back in July.

  24. Johnno,

    Twenty-five links to ZeroHedge? Would it not be simpler just to link to ZeroHedge’s main page and let people find their own junk news stories on there?

  25. Johnno: Well, the mRNA stuff was pretty much a failed technology (mostly cancer research) that they wanted to recoup their R&D from, and no liability? “What a savings!”

    More “traditional” coronavirus vaccines aren’t looking so good either:

    https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm

    Great, now you’ve got diabetes and/or kidney failure. Good luck if you get the flu.

    There are so many ways they’ve miscalculated. They’re not very bright. Don’t give them any hints.

  26. Swordfish, the study wasn’t retracted by the researchers, but by the JAMA, which published it. JAMA also “retracted” an earlier study showing that children’s face masks, after just one day’s wear, were laden with bacteria such as strep, pneumonia, e-coli and so forth. It was retracted due to “outcry” from the usual parties, big pharma and so forth.

    Just because a known leftist organization such as the American Medical Association “retracts” something doesn’t mean it isn’t so. Using common sense, it stands to reason that face masks worn by children or adults cause higher levels of CO2, because the gas isn’t being respirated out at a normal rate. High levels of CO2, and lower Oxygen levels, are more dangerous for children with developing brains, than for adults.

    It also stands to reason, that children scratch “places” then adjust their mask, touch dirty doorknobs and adjust their mask, forget to wash hands after using toilet then adjust their masks, put masks into dirty pockets while outdoors, sneeze and snot into masks, and so forth.

    Clearly, any study that goes against Branch Covidianism, is quickly withdrawn by the AMA and its corporate and gov’t partners, as we’ve seen over and over again. You are such a classic Midwit, which is why I enjoy your comments and the responses to them.

  27. Sad but true story, about man in his early 60s who developed paralysis from the diaphragm down, the day after being forced to accept a Covid shot by his employer. These need to be shared because they are not getting any attention from the Manson media.

    It’s very possible to stay healthy without the jab.

    https://gab.com/MorpheusMAGA/posts/107213782609683772

  28. A report from flyover country: Due to an eye issue flare up, had no choice but to enter a medical establishment today for the first time since before Covid. Retail, grocery, and restaurants have been no problem for months, but I’d heard most docs – even dentists, though you obviously have to remove a mask for them to work on your teeth (apparently walking in and out of the door and waiting room is dangerous!) – and hospitals were still very much mask Nazis. Eye doc had sign on door that says, “All our staff have been fully vaccinated, but if you are not vaccinated, please wear a mask.” [Notice these signs never say WHAT you should have been vaxed for, just “vaxed,” and just assumed one and only one virus could ever be a concern to anyone anywhere…all COVID all the time].

    Was afraid I’d be booted out and have to either schlep around in vain to find another eye doc less Covidian-compliant, or resort to Teledoc or something and mostly just continue to suffer. In the end, much worry about nothing. No one said a word about me not having a muzzle, and didn’t ask if I was indeed vaxed. Staff and doc couldn’t have been more pleasant, and no one so much as mentioned Covid or vaccines in any context whole time. And no inane Covid routine in exam room either; it was just like a normal eye doc visit circa 2019 – the good old days B.C.! Actually excited for my follow up in 2 weeks!

    I get the sense that most of these mask signs that one still sees in some places are just going through the motions (like Václav Havel’s greengrocer). No one around here really cares any more and is basically over the Covid BS. But, even though there is no mask mandate here in KY (and will not be until at least June 2023 thanks to legislative action to override governor’s power grabs), I think some retail and other establishments still fear they may be sued if someone claims to have been exposed or infected in their establishment (though how could infection ever be proven with such precision unless one could prove no other contact at all with anyone anywhere else? If you ever left the house at all, or had a visitor, such proof is basically impossible), so continuing to at least state some minimal official “Covid Safe” policy is probably just an effort to stave off such claims by at least showing lack of willful negligence in safety precautions “during a pandemic,” should some nutjob get the flu and try to sue them for it.

    In any case, a good sign that life can indeed go on as normal…if only people would just let it and just do it, instead of kowtowing to endless fearmongering and letting themselves be bullied by ever more lawless and unconstitutional “mandates” and experimental vax coercion emanating from the White House and other Fed organs (All corrupt and evil: the greatest enemy of mankind right now is the federal government of the USA. For mankind to have any decent future, that Leviathan must die. National divorce, breaking up this country and disbanding the federal government – and if I had my way, razing Washington DC to the ground completely and then salting the earth, like the Romans did to Carthage – is the only way forward).

  29. Twenty-five links to ZeroHedge? Would it not be simpler just to link to ZeroHedge’s main page and let people find their own junk news stories on there?

    No, because as the site’s name indicates, there are usually more stories dealing with the economy and the markets first, Demo/Repub politics second, and covid news third.

    Coronavirus Update XXXXso-on is the place where we gather all the good news of the ongoing week. And by good news, I mean every little new event good and bad that turns the scews on the fak-checkas and the conspiracy-deniers and those who said “Why?! Bu… but… Joe Biden would never do that!!! I truuusstteeddd hiiiimmm! WHHHYYY????” >>O_0<<

    At least I read my links! Speaking of which…

    Bu… but… the fak-checks said…
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/nih-officials-allowed-ecohealth-alliance-self-police-risky-gain-function-experiments-wuhan

    Thousands Of Active-Duty Air Force Members Miss Deadline For COVID Shots
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/thousands-active-duty-air-force-members-miss-deadline-covid-shots

    If you're going… to San Francisco… be sure your child has a passport in her arm…
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/san-francisco-force-5-year-olds-show-vaccine-passport-enter-restaurants

    What America's 17 Intelligence Agencies Won't Say About the Origins of Covid
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/ron-unz/what-americas-17-intelligence-agencies-wont-say-about-the-origins-of-covid/

    The Pope: A Conversation in Hell
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/jon-rappoport/the-pope-a-conversation-in-hell/

    Must-Read excerpt from ARSH 2017 CoronaScam Planning Document from Johns Hopkins: Chapter 17 “Vaccine Injury”, Chapter 18, “Acknowledging Loss”
    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/11/04/must-read-excerpt-from-arsh-2017-coronascam-planning-document-from-johns-hopkins-chapter-17-vaccine-injury-chapter-18-acknowledging-loss/

    HOSPITAL CRISIS: 7000 Queensland Healthcare Workers DEFY Vaccine Mandate
    https://xyz.net.au/2021/11/hospital-crisis-7000-queensland-healthcare-workers-defy-vaccine-mandate/

  30. Pfizer Has Secret Government Contracts for COVID Vaccines: Advocacy Group Says Company Puts Profits over Public Health and Reveals Seven of Its Contracts Are Worth $5 Billion
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/pfizer-secret-government-contracts-covid-vaccines-advocacy-group-says-company-puts-profits-over-public-health-reveals-seven-contracts-worth-5-billion/5759323

    The Covid-19 Timeline. No Evidence of a “Pandemic”
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-covid-19-timeline/5759407

    Government’s Own Data Proves COVID-19 Shots Are Causing Blood Clots, Heart Disease, and Death
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/government-own-data-proves-covid-19-shots-causing-blood-clots-heart-disease-death/5760777

    Doctor Fired for Giving Patients Facts About COVID Injection
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/doctor-fired-giving-patients-facts-about-covid-injection/5760774

    Hmmmmm… Ever noticed that up until twenty months ago, HIV+ and even full-blown AIDS patients and their friends, family and caregivers never wore masks?
    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/11/05/hmmmmm-ever-noticed-that-up-until-ten-months-ago-hiv-and-even-full-blown-aids-patients-and-their-friends-family-and-caregivers-never-wore-masks/

    No Choice: How Covid Can Render You Indecisive For the Rest of Your Life

    A new study has found that one unlikely result of the pandemic for many has been Panic Disorder – an increased inability to make inconsequential decisions due to the constant need for risk assessment in everyday life.

    If you’ve found yourself struggling with making minor decisions recently, you’re not the only one. A new study conducted by The Harris Poll on behalf of the American Psychological Association found that nearly one-third of US adults (32%) are having difficulty making basic daily decisions, such as what to wear or eat.

    The survey also showed that, while 70% of respondents were confident that everything would work out fine once the coronavirus pandemic ended, and 77% felt like they were doing well overall, more than one-third (35%) said it has been more stressful to make major life decisions, around half (49%) said the pandemic has made planning for the future seem impossible, and 61% said the last 18 months have made them rethink how they live their lives.

    Those results are not surprising in and of themselves. We’ve all read the headlines about the general anxiety and feelings of dread that people have experienced throughout the pandemic, as well as the stories about people completely re-evaluating their lives thanks to all of the free time for self-reflection. Deciding whether or not to quit your job and move to Missouri is always stressful, even when there isn’t a global pandemic going on.

    This type of anxiety – in which you can have a panic attack over something relatively small – is known as a Panic Disorder. You might even recognize that debating whether to go to the gym or straight to work is not worth the agony it’s causing you, but you still feel like you’re in an airplane that’s about to crash into the ocean. According to the National Institute of Mental Health, an estimated 4.7% of US adults experience panic disorders. Based on this new survey, it seems like quite a few more of us are suffering from them now.

    The survey blames this new surge of anxiety almost entirely on the pandemic. “For many, the pandemic has imposed the need for constant risk assessment, with routines upended and once trivial tasks recast in light of the pandemic. Many people ask, ‘What is the community transmission in my area today and how will this affect my choices? What is the vaccination rate? Is there a mask mandate here?’ When the factors influencing a person’s decisions are constantly changing, no decision is routine.”

    Concerns over the Delta variant and changes in routine are no doubt the main source of stress for many people. And they’re still at it. Almost everyone I know is freaking out over the vaccine mandate, either because they’re worried that it’s not safe to go out as not enough people are vaccinated, or staunchly against the vaccine and terrified of losing their jobs.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/no_author/no-choice-how-covid-can-render-you-indecisive-for-the-rest-of-your-life/

    Creepy Pfizer Ad Tells Kids they are “Superheroes” for Taking Jab, Ignores Injuries of Others
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/no_author/creepy-pfizer-ad-tells-kids-they-are-superheroes-for-taking-jab-ignores-injuries-of-others/

    Noam Chomsky Goes Off The Deep End – Proving That All Socialism Leads To Tyranny
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/noam-chomsky-goes-deep-end-proving-all-socialism-leads-tyranny

    Rand Paul Accuses Fauci Of Using “Smarmy Word Salad” To Cover Up His Lying
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-rand-paul-accuses-fauci-using-smarmy-word-salad-cover-his-lying

    NYC Firetruck Availability Down To 55%, Manpower Shortages Due To Vaccine Mandate: NY Firefighters
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nyc-firetruck-availability-down-55-percent-manpower-shortages-due-vaccine-mandate-ny

  31. “The survey also showed that, while 70% of respondents were confident that everything would work out fine once the coronavirus pandemic ended…”

    The first thing everyone needs to understand is that THERE IS NO LONGER A PANDEMIC and WE ARE NOT “IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC,” arguably never were…not a REAL one worth worrying about for the vast majority of people – nowhere close to Spanish Flu 1918, and not remotely on the same planet as Black Death 1348..and everything would be fine and is fine, if only they’d stop pretending we are in the midst of a genuine “pandemic” health “crisis.” Any real “pandemic” worth worrying about was over by June 2020 at the latest…all we’ve had since is extended government and media manufactured paranoia, tyranny, and high-cycle PCR test-induced “casedemic.”

  32. Was it ever a pandemic? https://stovouno.org/2020/04/09/if-you-want-to-create-a-totally-false-panic-about-a-totally-false-pandemic-pick-a-coronavirus/

    Look, when this thing first came out I was skeptical. Then I looked at the numbers. Nothing to worry about.

    Then, they rolled out the vexxines… Plenty to worry about. The vexxine “trials” were a joke. I have experience with cancer treatment trials and by comparison these trials are simply fraudulent.

    The mandate push makes absolutely no sense. Unless it is not about “public health.”

    Yes, there is a certain portion of the population who are neurotic or hypochondriacs, but they are in the minority.

  33. I just contracted what seems to be the real flu: achiness, first day, with some elevated temps, some weakness, then just being sick for a few days. And my O2 levels never went down. I was on Ivermectin prophylaxis but treated it as if it was COVIS. with IVr every 18 hours.

  34. “I just contracted what seems to be the real flu…but treated it as if it was COVIS…”

    How can you tell the difference? Have you actually tested for Covid? Maybe most of them we’re just flu all along…just flu re-branded…that’s why it was such a brilliant move to base the “plandemic” around a coronavirus with symptoms often indistinguishable from ordinary flu or cold. Had it truly been a radically “novel” virus, it may have been harder to keep things going for so long (and harder to control in the wild), and the whole game more easily found out and exposed as a sham.

    When the supposedly unprecedented, super-scary, world-historically catastrophic and “novel” “pandemic” virus presents with symptoms virtually indistinguishable from ordinary cold and flu, it’s much easier really to gin-up mass hysteria and paranoia, and keep it going.

  35. Ann Cherry,

    Swordfish, the study wasn’t retracted by the researchers, but by the JAMA, which published it.

    Most retracted papers are retracted by journals, so this is irrelevant.

    JAMA also “retracted” an earlier study showing that children’s face masks, after just one day’s wear, were laden with bacteria such as strep, pneumonia, e-coli and so forth. It was retracted due to “outcry” from the usual parties, big pharma and so forth.

    I doubt if you’re reporting this accurately, and so what anyway? You’re citing another retracted paper, FFS!

    Just because a known leftist organization such as the American Medical Association “retracts” something doesn’t mean it isn’t so.

    So right-wing media and other organisations aren’t biased? What planet are you on?

    Using common sense, it stands to reason that face masks worn by children or adults cause higher levels of CO2, because the gas isn’t being respirated out at a normal rate. High levels of CO2, and lower Oxygen levels, are more dangerous for children with developing brains, than for adults.

    Common sense also tells us that the Earth is flat, which is one of the reasons why we invented science to try and work out what’s really true. In any case, common sense also says that if masks can filter oxygen, then they can filter much smaller virus particles.

    Clearly, any study that goes against Branch Covidianism, is quickly withdrawn by the AMA and its corporate and gov’t partners, as we’ve seen over and over again. You are such a classic Midwit, which is why I enjoy your comments and the responses to them.

    Conspiracy theory. In general, your thinking is irrational. Instead of: “This paper has been retracted, so it’s probably unreliable”, you think “This paper has been retracted, but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible that it’s reliable.” In other words, you always pick the least-likely option. Regarding “midwit”, try looking in a mirror. You’re the one who’s apparently smarter than the AMA and the entire world’s medical and scientific establishments. The same applies to the other loony antivaxxers on here.

  36. philemon,

    “Common sense also tells us that the Earth is flat.” No, it doesn’t.

    I’m fairly sure it does. People thought the Earth was flat for most of human history (that is, for hundreds of thousands of years). We’d have no reason to think otherwise as its curvature is too small to see with the naked eye. But it might have been a better example to say that it’s common sense that the Sun goes round the Earth, so thanks for your input.

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