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Introducing The Covid Panic & Worry Indexes: Plus What All Cause Deaths Reveal About The Vax

This is coronavirus update CVIII. Are we sickened unto death of these yet? This is a long update. Be sure to see the New & Improved! in Numbers, where I introduce the Panic & Worry Indexes. You must also look at the all cause death analysis, which gives evidence of vax harm.

XI IT?

Friday, the propaganda outlets were ablaze with terror stories. Beware the Ominous Omicron, The African Avenger! Omicron being the variant du jour. What is hilarious about this is that our fearless rulers skipped over the letter Xi, which isn’t even pronounced Winnie the Pooh. You have to laugh.

Headlines rang This could be worse than the Dreaded Delta! This might kill more than the Alpha Alpha! “We haven’t seen it but it might be here!” (Radio quote.) This might could possibly it’s a chance who knows maybe variant Variant VARIANT.

Then, late in the day Friday, some numbers came out.

Eighty seven people were identified as having the new variant across all Africa. Not quite 90. Almost 100. The rulers here reacted instantly, calling for a travel ban (see below)—but they decided to delay it a few days because…well…because our rulers are idiots playing a part. Badly.

Are you sufficiently frightened yet?

Even though there were only a scarce handful of people with the OO, in Africa and around the world, they said, take a look at what Experts have already discovered about our newest violent variant.

Statisticians usually require enormous sample sizes to discern these kinds of the things, and distinguish them from other vax symptoms—excuse me! From other coronadoom variant symptoms. Yet Experts had all this information ready to go.

Experts are amazing.

Where did the Ominous Omicron come from? Maybe the vax itself.

Wait, don’t get mad. This is NPR’s idea. That’s right, the bastion of woke-lite old people is saying indiscriminate vaxxing causes mutations, as has happened before with other bugs, and is happening now with this one. They say.

Here’s their headline: Vaccines Could Drive The Evolution Of More COVID-19 Mutants. The link leads to an audio interview, also transcribed at the site.

RICHARD HARRIS, BYLINE: You may have heard that bacteria can develop resistance to antibiotics and, in a worst-case scenario, render the drugs useless. Something similar can also happen with vaccines, though, with less serious consequences. This worry has arisen mostly in the debate over whether to delay a second vaccine shot so more people can get the first shot quickly. Paul Bieniasz, a Howard Hughes investigator at the Rockefeller University, says that gap would leave people with only partial immunity for longer than necessary.

PAUL BIENIASZ: They might serve as sort of a breeding ground for the virus to acquire new mutations.

HARRIS: That’s because the virus is always mutating. And if one happens to produce a mutation that makes it less vulnerable to the vaccine, that virus could simply multiply in a vaccinated individual. But even if that happens, that’s only one step in the process.

It goes on like that at length. In brief, instead of focused protection of the truly vulnerable (old and sick), mass vaccination (including those who were previously infected) will likely cause the spread of variants and, in spots, cause the pandemic to worsen.

Isn’t that what we have seen? SAGE in the UK saw it coming, too.

Now I tell you the secret. That headline came from back in early February, when people were still happy about the vax, when there was great glee at their introduction on the right (the left was still against the Trump vax), before it became a mania to mandate them, before it was realized by Experts and the masses how poor they would be in practice.

Not us, dear readers, for we predicted what we have seen, conditional on the universal experience with vaccines for respiratory diseases, like flu (and, really, medicines of all kinds). Can you recall how many times we reminded ourselves we had flu vaccines for decades, all failing to eradicate that disease? Me neither. But it was many.

The one thing about Experts that is as true as the sun is hot is that they never admit to error. The people in that NPR story were not Experts. An Expert is a credentialed, even educated, person whose views align with those of the rulers and who is put in a position of power.

Experts and rulers together connived that all must have the vax, a strategy which Experts promised would be our salvation. When that proved false, instead of saying Oopsies and moving on, the failure of the vaccines was blamed on those who did not take them.

It’s not that we don’t expect Experts to be as dumb as that. It’s that many believed the Experts. Even after their long, long, most exceptionally long series of blunders, errors, and continuing mistakes.

Their strategy to blame their abysmal failures on others works. Rulers and Experts, together with propagandists, have succeeded far better than we would have liked. They have created for us an enemy, not their own erring selves, but you, dear reader.

We now have open calls for “eliminating” the unvaxxed. True, most of these calls are from people not in power. But those in power are saying damn similar things. We saw already last week Austria and Germany have threatened concentration camps (no, really). Here is a small sampling of new threats.

The Prime Minister of Italy says those who do not get vaccinated are not part of “our society”. What are they part of, then? Shall these evil people be purged? Killed?

It wasn’t a party. It was a meeting to decide the best method of forcibly interning the unvaxxed.

The sign reads “Unvaccinated Unwanted.” You have to admit Germans have a helluva sense of humor about this.

The WHO says “says it’s time for countries to have ‘healthy debate’ about mandatory vaccination”.

Mandatory, dear reader, has a definite meaning. Else words have no meaning at all.

What will be the end of this, then? Blood? Blood to assuage the fear of the hersterics panicked by propagandists? To salve the egos of failed Experts? You tell me.

PAST BLASTS

Let’s keep going with a review of past pandemic low lights.

Listen to those guys. They know what’s best! Right?

C’mon, man. Look. Here’s the thing. Where’s my soup? Where’s Kamala? Oh, here she comes.

A small reminder (most of you don’t need it) that our figurehead rulers do nothing but lie to you. Nothing but. Yet think how many still trust them. Just you think on that.

Let’s write that one (from March) out: “All three vaccines are 100 per cent effective against death and hospitalisation, Fauci says”.

Was he right?

Was he even in the ballpark?

Was he even on the same planet?

Have your answers? Okay, now answer this one: why has this man not been tarred, feathered, and launched into low-earth orbit?

Wait! Don’t answer yet. Here’s the hubris-filled megalomaniac midget camera whore saying “I represent Science.

Now answer the questions.

YOU CAN’T DIE IN HERE!

DAV found this for us: “Assisted death only for vaccinated, euthanasia association says“.

Anyone wishing to be euthanized now has to first present proof of vaccination or recovery from Covid, as per the new guidelines issued by Germany’s euthanasia association.

Germans will be ‘vaccinated, cured or dead’ by winter’s end — ministerREAD MORE: Germans will be ‘vaccinated, cured or dead’ by winter’s end – minister

A statement put out by the Hamburg-based group on Friday reads “assisted suicide and the preliminary examination of a patient’s ability to make decisions freely implies physical closeness between people. However, that is precisely the precondition for the spread of Covid.”

They won’t kill you unless you’re vaxxed or recovered. Recovered.

Recovered.

Experts are the dumbest smart people who have ever lived.

And as long as you’re in the mood to laugh, this (second tweet in thread leads to the archived post):

NUMBERS

NEW PLOTS!

I call the first one the Panic Index (all data from CDC).

This is the number of daily tests divided by the number of daily “cases”. “Tests” is, more or less, unambiguous. “Cases” is not. A “case” is a positive test. It may or may not be a real infection, or a symptomatic infection, and very likely is not a serious infection, and some infections may have been missed. Uncertainty exists.

Ideally—note that word—all who felt sick from the doom would get a test, and that test would come back positive. The Panic Index would then be 1, indicating no panic, or Sanity State 1.

There would be some hovering around that number because of test imperfections and so forth, but anything close to 1 indicates a healthy mental state of the populace.

Anything lingering above it indicates something has gone wrong. I say lingering because it’s possible to imagine sane states where groups in the population undergo screening tests. These would be of short duration, and localized, and would bump up the 1 into the low digits temporarily.

Numbers north of 10, indicating panic, are to be avoided.

How are we doing? Better than the Blind Summer Of Panic over the Dreaded Delta. It’s better now, but still like at the beginning, two years ago. And all this is before the new propaganda blitz over the Ominous Omicron.

You will note the Panic Index does not track deaths at all, which look like this:

“Cases” are indeed up in the once United States. Alas, deaths are not cooperating. Still, propaganda has risen to fresh heights. It will take one to two weeks to see the full effect of their efforts to induce yet another frenzy.

I call this next one the Worry Index. This is the daily attributed doom deaths by daily “cases”.

Obviously, the deadlier the bug, the higher this ratio would be, and the greater the worry. The ideal number here is 0—which doesn’t even exist for the common cold (also caused by, inter alia, coronaviruses).

Incidentally, the little dots at the beginning are for rates off the scales, before the panic began, and in which only the truly sick were noticed.

Teasing out cause is difficult here, because “cases” don’t mean cases, and depend themselves on testing. A surge in useless panic testing can send the Worry Index lower, even though the true worry hasn’t changed. Also, yes, deaths lag diagnoses most of the time, so the timing of this index is imperfect.

All that said, it has some uses in gauging seriousness. There is reason to worry less now, as you can see. But worry levels were the same last summer before the hesteria over the vaccines began.

What you might not have noticed, since I don’t have a quantification for it, is that propaganda picked up at each lull in the Worry Index. Look again and search your memory. We just entered a new lull, and what happened with propaganda? Judge for yourself.

We’re running long, but it’s been a while since we did all cause deaths; i.e. deaths from every cause, and not just the doom. These are important.

Last year is in read, this year in green. Note carefully the dotted lines are all cause deaths minus Covid deaths. The thin lines are previous years, where you can plainly see the increase in weekly deaths year by year caused by population increase. Absent Covid, we should have seen the red line just above all the thin ones, and the green line just above the red, plus or minus.

But then came TWO THINGS: Covid and the vaccines.

Look to the beginning the year: the dotted green. See how it is way below the thin lines, when we’d expect it to be above all the thin lines, if there was no Covid. There were almost no vaccines at this time.

Yet deaths from all causes were much lower, subtracting Covid. This suggests either Covid killed all the easiest to kill the year before, which doesn’t seem to be likely given it’s still the old dying at the highest rates by far this year, or Covid deaths were over attributed. By about 10,000 per week at first.

A diminishing over-attribution seems to hold until about Week 20. It was then the big, and as above, initially happy push for the vax began.

Keep the predilection for over-attributing Covid deaths in mind. Then look to weeks 30-40 or so. Anything past that is subject to late counting (takes about 8 weeks to get bulk of data in; last three weeks have black dots). Both the red and green dotted lines are higher than we’d expect absent Covid. What is causing these extra (beyond what we’d expect) deaths? It almost certainly isn’t Covid, given undercounts are not at all likely. Has to be something else, then.

Last year were the punitive lockdowns and general panic, like keeping people out of hospitals.

This year the vax moral panic.

My guess is it’s other than panic deaths. And that because of April-May 2020, where the red dots, absent Covid and no vax, were also way too high, and these were cause by the initial iatrogenic deaths, and because there really aren’t lockdowns around anywhere in significant force or number.

Those 2020 lockdowns were also ending by last summer’s end, and the red dots were then just about where we’d expect them, absent Covid. Until the propaganda push beginning last January, when Covid deaths were almost certainly over-attributed.

That leaves…?

This isn’t proof, but it’s in line with everything we know, including the reports of side effects.

Next week we’ll update deaths by age (all cause and Covid), but nothing seems to have changed there. However, we’re way too long to do it this week, too.

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  1. I’ve taken a cursory look at % excess deaths (minus Covid) by age group and noticed a couple things. For 2021, up to now, excess deaths in the largely unvaxed 0-14 age group have been running negative by about 10-15% all year. The data for the 15-40 age groups is very troubling, running 20-40% positive all year. Those age groups have not had a single week of normal death rate all year, but have been running hot after subtracting out the Covid deaths. And even though they tail off over the past two months due to incomplete reporting, the prior weeks indicate they will continue at an elevated rate through the end of the year when reporting catches up.

  2. I find this confusing:

    “Look to the beginning the year: the dotted green. See how it is way below the thin lines, when we’d expect it to be above all the thin lines, if there was no Covid. There were almost no vaccines at this time.”

    From 0 to about 16 +/-, the dotted green is above almost all the thin lines, and then is above all.

    Where does “way below the thin lines” come from ??

  3. Dan,

    Take another look. Dotted green line in early weeks almost on top of red line, which is below thin purple line, etc.

  4. @briggs, it could be that they skipped letters because Omicron is an easier anagram for Moronic! Thanks, as always for all the great info.

  5. In a kind gesture they left the letter Xi available to be applied to the original Wuhan strain.

    So Xi = Wuhan, Alpha = Kent, Delta = Indian, and OhmyGad = South Africa.

  6. STATS!

    UK Official Data Proves It Is a Pandemic of the Vaccinated
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/11/28/uk-official-data-proves-it-is-a-pandemic-of-the-vaccinated/

    German Statisticians Find the Same Result in Germany as the UK Health Security Agency Reports: It Is a Pandemic of the Vaccinated.
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/11/28/german-statisticians-find-the-same-result-in-germany-as-the-uk-health-security-agency-reports-it-is-a-pandemic-of-the-vaccinated/

    COVID Cases In South Africa’s Omicron Epicenter Decline As Hysteria Rattles Global Markets
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-cases-south-africas-omicron-epicenter-decline-hysteria-rattles-markets

    Top South African Doctor Confirms No Evidence Omicron Variant More Harmful Than Delta As G-7 Pushes “Urgent Action”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/top-south-african-doctor-confirms-no-evidence-omicron-variant-more-harmful-delta

    PANIC!

    Israel Moves To Ban All Foreigners From Entry Amid Omicron Variant Fears
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/israel-moves-ban-all-foreigners-entering-amid-omicron-variant-fears

    Belgian Prime Minister Says New Variant Heralds Arrival Of “COVID-21”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/belgian-prime-minister-says-new-variant-heralds-arrival-covid-21

    World Medical Association Chair Demands National Lockdowns, Compulsory Jabs, Fears COVID “Variant As Dangerous As Ebola”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/world-medical-association-chair-demands-national-lockdowns-compulsory-jabs-fears-covid

    Fauci: Omicron Probably Already In The US
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fauci-omicron-probably-already-us

    EXPERTS!

    An entire army of macrotourist “experts” exposed as clueless hacks.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/team-transitory-dead-powell-says-time-retire-word-transitory-regarding-inflation

    UK Health Authority Slammed By Watchdog For Misleading Claim That Unvaxx’d Have “32 Times” Risk Of COVID Death
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-health-authority-slammed-watchdog-misleading-claim-unvaxxd-have-32-times-risk-covid

    Oxford University Says “No Evidence” Vaccines Won’t Protect Against Severe Disease Caused By Omicron

    Vs.

    Moderna CEO Repeats That Vaccine Won’t Work For Omicron; Antibody Cocktails Also Need Modification

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/oxford-university-says-no-evidence-vaccines-wont-protect-against-severe-disease-caused
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/markets-edge-after-moderna-ceo-repeats-vaccine-wont-work-omicron

    Sens. Cruz, Paul Blast “Astounding Authoritarian” Fauci For “I Am Science” Claim
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sens-cruz-paul-blast-astounding-authoritarian-fauci-i-am-science-claim

    White House Quietly Delays Vaccine Mandate As Another Federal Judge Objects
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/another-federal-judge-blocks-biden-vaccine-mandate-omicron-emerges

    Media Says Rise In Soccer Players Suddenly Collapsing Is Just A “Coincidence”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/media-says-rise-soccer-players-suddenly-collapsing-just-coincidence

    UK Bureaucrats Abandon Term “Christmas” Over Fears It May Offend Minorities

    Civil servants wanted to use the word as part of a COVID-19 test drive aimed at students that was originally called “Don’t take COVID home for Christmas.”

    However, the phrasing was vetoed after bosses worried it would upset non-Christians.

    “We have been advised by Cabinet Office that we should not use the word Christmas – as the Government campaign needs to be inclusive and some religions don’t celebrate Christmas,” an email seen by The Mail on Sunday read.

    “The other option was ‘festive season’ which keeps the emotional motivation.”

    “We have gone with ‘Don’t take COVID-19 home for the holidays,” they subsequently decided, despite another official pointing out that calling Christmas “holidays” was an “Americanism.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-bureaucrats-abandon-term-christmas-over-fears-it-may-offend-minorities

    I’ll say it: “Omicron” doesn’t exist. “Omicron” is the cover story for the poisoning deaths from the coerced injections, AND an excuse for Big Pharma to declare that everyone must start over and be injected with another brand-new poison.
    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/11/29/ill-say-it-omicron-doesnt-exist-omicron-is-the-cover-story-for-the-poisoning-deaths-from-the-coerced-injections-and-an-excuse-for-big-pharma-to-declare-that-everyone-must-start-over-an/

  7. It’s clear from the detailed symptom list they’ve already compiled for Omicron (for a supposedly new “variant” just announced a few days ago? Yeah, right) that they are simply using “variants” now as a cover for vax deaths.

    Had a heart attack or stroke after having been jabbed? Not the vax…nope, no way…it’s the scary new Omicron that really got you…darn breakthrough case…should’ve had a booster sooner! And on and on it goes, and will go forever now it seems.

  8. Look to the beginning the year: the dotted green. See how it is way below the thin lines, when we’d expect it to be above all the thin lines, if there was no Covid. There were almost no vaccines at this time.

    Dan Hughes beat me to it. The dotted green line *IS* above all the thin lines apart from the purple one. I don’t know why you bother with these graphs as they never seem to prove anything.

  9. Absent Covid, we should have seen the red line just above all the thin ones, and the green line just above the red, plus or minus.
    Yet the 2020 red and 2021 green are way above the thin lines.

    Briggs is really talking about the green and red lines and their relation to each other. He is being unclear.
    It still seems a funny way to try to prove anything about vaccination!

    It doesn’t make sense because it isn’t sensible.
    Maybe Briggs is trying to imply that increase in population accounts for everything you see there, nothing else of note….
     
    [emphasis on [absent Covid]
    might read, [even absent Covid]

  10. The article says:

    Look to the BEGINNING the year.

    followed by:

    A diminishing over-attribution seems to hold until about Week 20. It was then the big, and as above, initially happy push for the vax began.

    Keep the predilection for over-attributing Covid deaths in mind. Then look to weeks 30-40 or so.

    which only further emphasizes that the statement was referring to BEFORE WEEK 20.

  11. Maybe the name Omicron ….. came together from the following:

    So Omicron means …. To Echo the Cron scheduled task which job can be very usedul to automate repetitive tasks.

    And it seems “new” variants … repetitive variants keep being announced.

    OMI … One of the many names of Odin ‘Omi’; meaning ‘resounding one'”.

    ODIN ….. a god in Norse mythology, who was associated with healing, death, knowledge, sorcery, poetry,

    Resound …. To make a loud, prolonged, or reverberating sound: synonym: echo

    CRON … A cron job is the scheduled task itself. Cron jobs can be very useful to automate repetitive tasks.

    God bless, C-Marie

  12. re: “The Covid Panic & Worry Indexes”

    Well, we had the ‘misery index’ under President Jimmy Carter; apropos then, and apropos now (with suitable adaptation for conditions presently seen).

  13. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-omicron-absurdities-continue

    Another data splice. Hmm… That seems vaguely familiar. Where on earth have I seen that before? Something about a hockey-stick?

    Dennis: “Had a heart attack or stroke after having been jabbed? Not the vax…nope, no way…it’s the scary new Omicron that really got you…darn breakthrough case…should’ve had a booster sooner! And on and on it goes, and will go forever now it seems.”

    They can run but they can’t hide. The Moronic scarient seems to be a mild cold at worst even in the vexxinated. Let’s all get that!

    The vexxines didn’t stop anyone getting it, getting sick, getting hospitalized, dying, or spreading it. Natural immunity is the best.

  14. Regarding vaccines, the only line that’s relevant is the 2021 line since they did not exist in 2020.
    So what’s left to see? Nothing much, regarding vaccination.
    The early drop for the US in 2021 is presumably being put down to some functioning lockdowns or non pharmaceutical interventions, with or without the happy willing campers.
    At what point the US roll out is considered to be impacting Covid death numbers is not clear from the above article or diagrams.
     
    According to other statisticians and epidemiologists: all cause mortality corrected for age is supposed to be analysed two, three or four years after the epidemic. That is how all other statisticians have spoken of the matter. Seems people here, have been looking at all cause with reference to Covid since the very beginning.

    As for splicing of data, regarding the hockey stick: that is reference to time series.
    What looks like is happening above, is the thin lines have some other operation smoothing the lines compared with the recent years. This seems to fit the notion that assessing all cause needs to be undertaken when more time has passed. So, more data has come in.
    The red and green lines otherwise look very erratic, showing more, not less changeability, and surely aren’t comparable to the smoothed lines?

    Best to see the numbers themselves, rather than lines.
    The idea of analysing all cause mortality, as it was explained, is to see
    A closer to true extent of the entire epidemic compared with years where there is no epidemic. This includes everything: indirect deaths and direct deaths, as well as unrelated deaths. It is business as usual for epidemiology and analysis of quality or success of control of infectious diseases.
     
    Only four people, it seems, in the above have even noted the points raised.
    There is no discernible point to the diagram.

  15. Omicron is just the 15th letter of the Greek alphabet. It literally means “O-little” (“O-micron” – note where the break comes, it’s not a composite of “Omi-Cron”) – or “little O” in more idiomatic English – as opposed to the big/great O (“O-mega”; 24th & final letter of the Greek Alphabet – hence Christ’s “Alpha and Omega” reference) [orthographically both actually come in “big” and “small,” or “upper” and “lower” case as we would call them, just as with modern Latin letters, so clearly something other than just case – which may not have existed back then in Greek just as it didn’t in Latin – was meant by the original Greek distinction between Great and Little O].

    Anyway, it as nothing to do with alternate names for Odin (One could just as well posit OMI as coded reference to the Oblates of Mary Immaculate – though doubtful!), or computer operating system “cron job” schedulers. This kind of silliness gives the Resistance a bad look – even if the heart is in the right place.

  16. 1:
    Look to the beginning the year: the dotted green. See how it is way below the thin lines, when we’d expect it to be above all the thin lines, if there was no Covid. There were almost no vaccines at this time.
    then:
    2:
    Take another look. Dotted green line in early weeks almost on top of red line, which is below thin purple line, etc.
    Hmm,
    So what he meant to say was:
    “The red line is below the purple at the beginning of the year”

  17. Dennis,

    This kind of silliness gives the Resistance a bad look – even if the heart is in the right place.

    Don’t worry yourself. The “resistance” already looks bad because all it does is spread a bunch of conspiracy theories and lies made up by professional liars, like “America’s Frontline Doctors”.

  18. The lies and conspiracies are all coming from the Covid Cultist side, Sword Boy. People like you have helped kill hundreds of thousands through suppression of proper medical care, fanatically promoting dangerous, leaky, experimental “vaccines” instead as the only “treatment.”

    But your Covidian Cult is struggling to gain new adherents and keep the ones it has. Desperate ploys like the Omicron scariant are not working, and the mandate push (in the US at least) is crumbling through sheer inertia and obvious legal and constitutional deformities.

    You and your ilk will lose in the end – though I’m sure you’ll be happy about the body count you’ve amassed in the meantime (or maybe not – I get the distinct impression the Covid Cultists are really very disappointed Covid hasn’t been the big “Black Death”-level killer they were clearly hoping for. Perhaps this helps explain why the Cultists were so fanatically wed to a disproportionate and insane response so early and for so long to a virus that 99.98% survive. Even when the low global IFR became quite evident early on, they just couldn’t bear to give up their dream plague and all the control and perks that came with being part of it – if you were of the right “laptop class” who could marinate in and spread fear and paranoia while working from home and posing as a global savior by wearing a theatre mask when you went to the grocery).

  19. “statistics can’t prove cause”
    [WMBriggs]
    “correlation doesn’t prove cause”.[ The whole plant including the news anchors and the twitteratn]!

    “you can’t have cause without correlation” [DAV]
    Presumably, the trick is to find where that is.

    However it still can’t prove cause…
    “you need a better experiment”. [Bernie Cullen]
    “what heaving den of. a stink pile nation do you hail from….?” [Mike D]. A poet!

  20. Hmm, may be it was:
    “statistics can’t *Discover* cause”

    Lies, dam lies and statistics….
    not everything that counts, can be counted
    Not everything that can be counted, counts
    “I love to count”
    “applied maths is rubbish” Thomas Muller

  21. The resistance has been consistent and has been proved correct over and over and over again! Good show man! Good show!

    Masks continue to do nothing!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/oxford-professor-official-data-shows-face-masks-made-no-meaningful-difference-infection

    When tests continue to be shit, there is always a business that profits off many a poorgullibletrumpet!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/la-county-sheriff-boots-china-linked-covid-testing-firm-after-fbi-warns-over-dna

    The Science ™, incarnated as Fauci, continues to be rootin’tootin’atheists infallible god! But as much as they pray to and apologize for him, he doth not deliver them from evil.
    https://www.unz.com/article/introduction-to-the-real-anthony-fauci/
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/12/thomas-dilorenzo/the-most-striking-fact-in-robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-new-book/

    The vexx is vexxed!
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/no_author/the-conspiracy-theorists-were-right-it-is-a-poison-death-shot/
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/no_author/finally-medical-proof-the-covid-jab-is-murder/

    The experts and fak-checkas still can’t prove the initial premise!
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/destroying-narrative-40-reasons-why-covid-19-pandemic-never-existed-2/5757229

    The State and State-worshippers who love the State so much they want to marry it continue to fear… FEAR… America’s Frontline Doctors – whom they cannot refute, only threaten!
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/joseph-mercola/big-pharma-hunts-down-dissenting-doctors/

    “This is not happening! It is a conspiiiirrraaaccccyyyy theeeoory!!!,” screams a doubly vexxined fish!
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/31014-deaths-2890600-injuries-following-covid-shots-european-database-adverse-reactions-young-previously-healthy-people-continue-die/5763028

    “This is not happening! It is a conspiiiirrraaaccccyyyy theeeoory!!!,” yells a blunt rusty sword!
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/no_author/some-considerations-about-italian-situation/
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/11/23/pathologized-totalitarianism-101/

    “THIS! IS! NOT! HAPPENING! *cough* DAMMIT! *hrggh* It is a conspiiiirrraaaccccyyyy theeeoorREEEEEEEEE!,” bellows an untuned trumbone…. Ohhhh who shall comfort poorgullibletrumpet?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/jim-cramer-demands-biden-impose-vaccine-mandate-enforced-military
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/eu-chief-insists-we-must-discuss-vaccine-mandate-omicron-confirmed-norway-south-korea
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/biden-admin-unleashes-omicron-dragnet-cdc-demands-airlines-hand-over-names-all-southern
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/greece-fine-elderly-114-every-month-they-remain-unvaxxed
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/germanys-new-chancellor-says-mandatory-covid-jabs-necessary-contain-fourth-wave
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/los-angeles-now-enforcing-vaccine-mandates-indoor-businesses
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/judge-blocks-bidens-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-federal-contractors
    https://nonvenipacem.com/2021/11/29/nih-head-calls-for-misinformation-sources-to-be-tracked-down-brought-to-justice/

    Well, I’m heading off for a Christmas break… Not you fish’n’joy. Obey your state authorities like good citizens. Prepare your butts for the new booster or you’ll legally turn into an unvexxed anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist!!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/health-boss-tells-brits-not-socialise-over-christmas

  22. “Mass vaccination fails to halt Covid transmission rates – study”: https://www.rt.com/news/541900-mass-vaccination-covid-transmission/

    “Successful vaccine rollouts have failed to stop Covid transmission, WITH NEW DATA SHOWING THE PREVALENCE OF THE VIRUS INCREASING IN FULLY JABBED INDIVIDUALS [my emphasis], according to a medical study in The Lancet…Examining new infections in Germany, researchers found that the rate of cases among fully vaccinated individuals aged 60 and older has risen from 16.9% in July to 58.9% in October…Offering a clear assessment that fully vaccinated people are increasingly becoming the source of Covid transmission, the study identified a similar situation in the UK.”

    And still the midwits cry and sputter, and still the world pursues it’s mad course: “But muh jabs are working!…safe and effective!…pandemic of the unvaccinated!”

    And Austria’s descent into absolute Covid tyranny continues unabated, proving midwits don’t give a damn about facts, and that all this has nothing to do with “public health,” otherwise it’d be the vaxxed whom society should be protected from at this point!: “Austria Plans Enormous Fines, Incarceration For Vaccine Refusers”: https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/austria-plans-enormous-fines-incarceration

  23. Dennis,

    according to a medical study in The Lancet

    Yeah, but scientists are all liars paid by BIG PHARMA, according to your side. Please find some tweets from a tattoo remover in a stripmall or go away.

  24. What “the Revolution”. [see how the bracket gets bigger to catch all]
    has done, is variously throw various spanners in various works and carped from the sidelines in matters which they only half understand, to make at times, otherwise valid political complaints or even warranted complaints about their freedoms and their taxes. They ruin their argument because they show themselves to be ignorant and wrong about matters of historical fact, not opinion, about what is said or done. They go over the top at every opportunity.

    Yet they’ve made statements of the bleeding obvious, statements that were always made, initially by the side they SAY they oppose, and on and on and on.
    When they are shown to be wrong in that very matter, with transcripts? They claim vacuousness or pose non comprehension.

    I was waiting following the recent announcements from downing street for the usual nonsense but more so, waiting for the time to pass so that they can make claims, as if they said it first, when in fact, it was all said ON THJAT MONDAY!
    Jus ssayin’

  25. I was just discussing with my Mum today, how many of those who’ve died have been advocates against vaccination or matters Covid in general. Those with the power to help others, used them to pretend to save them from a fate worse than Covid. Maybe now, they will know the truth.
    “Sheep know their master’s voice”
    .
    We went out yesterday, Mum and I, we didn’t wear masks. Many were using them inside, but we were in a coffee shop, so no need.

  26. “Please find some tweets from a tattoo remover in a stripmall or go away”
    “I was just discussing with my Mum today, how many of those who’ve died have been advocates against vaccination or matters Covid in general. ”

    LOL. Imagine thinking most of those dying now are “advocates against vaccination or matter Covid.”

    And I know nothing of tattoo parlors…but a that’s typical response from a clown tooting trombone “wamps wamps” out his a*s. Please do continue your baseless slanders of those who advocate real treatment and prophylaxis that works rather than mindlessly drinking your Regime Narrative Kool-Aid propaganda for dangerous, leaky, experimental jabs – which real world evidence and data proves again and again should never have been approved and should be withdrawn immediately. But you Cultists just refuse to learn. I’ll look forward to playing trombone solos from my forthcoming album, “Schadenfreude,” over your graves.

  27. Dennis: “Successful vaccine rollouts have failed to stop Covid transmission, WITH NEW DATA SHOWING THE PREVALENCE OF THE VIRUS INCREASING IN FULLY JABBED INDIVIDUALS [my emphasis], according to a medical study in The Lancet…Examining new infections in Germany, researchers found that the rate of cases among fully vaccinated individuals aged 60 and older has risen from 16.9% in July to 58.9% in October…Offering a clear assessment that fully vaccinated people are increasingly becoming the source of Covid transmission, the study identified a similar situation in the UK.”

    Yep.

    Or “Simply Put: It DOES NOT WORK” https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244380

  28. “Simply Put: It DOES NOT WORK”

    Indeed. It’s clear from the above numbers becoming the norm everywhere that we’re really starting to see ADE/pathogenic priming take hold – exactly what sane people knew would happen with mRNA. being unleashed upon the masses, including its co-inventor, Dr. Robert Malone – but the Covid Vax Cultists just refuse to give up their fanatical and baseless “safe and effective” dogma. All they can do is screech about boosters and scariants, deplatform truth-tellers, and – like Austria and Australia – just start building camps for those who refuse to drink the Kool-Aid.

  29. Dennis: “All they can do is screech about boosters and scariants, deplatform truth-tellers, and – like Austria and Australia – just start building camps for those who refuse to drink the Kool-Aid.”

    Even in Jonestown, lots of people would not drink the Kool-Aid. Unfortunately, they were not armed.

  30. Here’s another mathematician’s take on the suffering of Covid in God’s world
     
    Many have heard the argument offered by John Lennox many times, It doesn’t hurt to see a good example of how Christians can view the epidemic. They don’t have to join in protests and anti vaccine organisations. That was never Jesus Christ’s example.
    Belligerence was not Jesus Christ’s way. We are supposed to try to follow his example. It becomes harder for all Christians when less and less of them represent Christ. It certainly makes me question everything, to see how the only real truth seems to be coming from non Christians.
    It is faith testing.

  31. Joy once again telling us that we must do what she tells us because that’s what Jesus would want, despite the fact that she will not confess Jesus Christ as Lord and God.

  32. “They get lost in propaganda. They try to dress up a turd to pass it off as a caramel. That’s the poison of the system…Into your house! Read my newspaper! Read my rumors, but no other. Dip into the wisdom of my speeches! But take care you don’t go beyond them, swine! Or I shall cut off your head!” – Louis-Ferdinand Céline, “Mea Culpa”

  33. “Here is the terrible story of Ignaz Philip Semmelweis…It demonstrates for us the danger of too much goodwill toward men. That is an old lesson that remains forever young. Just suppose that today even some other innocent should happen along setting himself the task of curing cancer [or Covid!]. He does not know to what kind of music they would set him dancing!…Let him double his prudence! It would be much better for him to be forewarned. Nothing is free in this base world. Everything must be paid for, the good no less than the evil must be paid for sooner or later. The good – that’s much more costly, of necessity…He was a great soul and a great genius in medicine…His work is eternal. Nevertheless, during his lifetime, it was completely disowned…” – Louis-Ferdinand Céline, “The Life and Work of Semmelweis”

    There are many Semmelweises in the world today – like Dr. McCullough, Dr. Zelenko, Dr. Marik, FLCCC, and many others – who have selflessly paid dearly for the good that they do in in opposing a bogus Narrative, in treating and healing people like genuine doctors and researchers true to their Hippocratic oaths, rather than acting as sellouts to a brutal and corrupt system, peddling lies and propaganda to suit a political Narrative and help line the pockets of a few while millions suffer and die needlessly. And like Semmelweis, they are called crazy charlatans and are hounded, ostracized, disowned, and punished personally and professionally by their moral and intellectual inferiors, who nonetheless happen to occupy positions of power and influence. And like Semmelweis, they are great souls whose work will be eternal, and they too, in the end, will be vindicated by History.

  34. Rudolph H. Again, you appear not to have grasped what I said to you before. You’re showing that you haven’t been reading here for very long, IF, you are indeed that curious, which I doubt.
     
    I don’t have to confess anything to you and as a Catholic, you have very different ideas to mine. As an American Catholic, you’re different again, which is where this strident attitude is coming from, presumably. Perhaps it’s because your’e on line, but somehow I doubt it.
     
    Since you are never showing that you know the truth, but choose to lie about those with whom you disagree, I see no reason to trust you with my beliefs. Just as I don’t see any reason why you should know other personal details. It’s that simple. There is a verse in the bible about telling people about your faith and “always being ready”. In Peter. Yet nowhere does it say that Christians must stand to attention and confess, just because an arrogant stranger demands.
    As for my telling “us” what to do? I didn’t do that. That’s another device you use perhaps try a different tack?
     
    More interesting though, back to the red and green lines, dotted or otherwise
    You were one of the four who noticed. What point do you think Brigs is making? Which is illustrated by those lines?

  35. I’m not sure what all the fuss is over the red and green lines (both solid and dotted): It seems quite clear to me. If all-cause deaths for this year (green) still greatly exceed all-cause minus covid (dotted green), and for much of the year – especially at the start, and that big solid green bulge around weeks 32 to 42 – exceed last year’s all-cause with and without Covid, and you can’t blame this year’s excess on either over-attribution of Covid deaths (at least not all, though there still is some of that, but Covid deaths have dropped, so there should be less of a gap between the solid and dotted lines this year than last year) or lockdown collateral deaths (nor is population growth alone enough to explain the difference), then what is the reason for this high rate of excess deaths still, even after the big vax push that was supposed to be the miracle that get us “back to normal”?

    Especially curious is that around week 40 this year’s all-cause minus Covid (dotted green) actually starts to dip under last year’s all-cause minus Covid (dotted red), while this year’s all-cause (solid green) is way (disproportionately so in relation to any expected annual increase, and can’t be attributed to Covid itself either) above last year’s all-cause (solid red) at the same 40 week mark (before any Covid jabs were available).

    Well, what deaths (and other side effects) are being massively under-reported and swept under the rug by the guardians of the Narrative (Regime docs, media, politicians, etc.)? The big 800lb gorilla in the room being ignored, of course, is…VAX DEATHS!

    Let’s say it again for those who refuse to see or hear: VAX DEATHS! There’s your reason why such a big gap still between dotted and solid green, and why solid green is way above solid red around week 40 (with reliable stats still being in flux for the weeks after that right now – I’ll be curious to see where those lines are for weeks 40-48 or so in a revised graph once late reporting is in and reliable data for post week 40 solidifies).

  36. I think i slightly misstated that above because dotted green is supposed to be minus Covid. So, that solid green is still so high c. week 40 must actually be from over-attribution to Covid (basically vax deaths being put down to covid or something else instead of vax).

  37. Dennis, here we go again:
    I’m not sure what all the fuss is over the red and green lines (both solid and dotted):
    Let’s pretend?
    Briggs brought up the lines. The question IS what’ all the fuss about? As well as pointing out the lines are not where Briggs said, maybe he misspoke and meant above instead of below or something but we’ll never know because we’re left carrying the water.
    As for attribution of cause from reading a graph? That is not how statistics works.
    The graphs are there to demonstrate pictorially, what is known from the numbers.
    It’s not tea leaf reading!
    “statistics can’t discover? prove? cause”
    It’s a good thing you corrected yourself over the red and green lines though.
    The solid green is way above the dotted line. So
     
    (All cause minus covid):
    So that remaining solid green is all cause plus covid!
    So, the difference is attributed to covid, in early 2021. That is the point which is being ignored, for some reason. 2020 is not relevant regarding vaccination any more than the thin lines.

    Yet that wasn’t the point Briggs was making. He implied that the lines said something about vaccination.
    The solid green line, excluding the drop off, which is due to late reporting, is doing what you would expect given early measures to limit the spread and roll out of the vaccination. It isn’t clear what the attribution actually is or was. WE don’t have that information in front of us. What we know is the date vaccination roll out started in the US, which was…
    Recall that over a hundred million? In the US haven’t been vaccinated, possibly more?
     
    There are enough variously unprotected people there to keep death numbers which are attributed to covid, going for the next two or three years. Again, we don’t have those actual numbers either.
    We have very little information except the graph which shows early ‘gains’ for man, and later viral surging.
     
    One person’s attribution story’s as good as anyone’s, but that’s why we’re no further on in settling the matter in the minds of those who’ve already adjudicated.
    At least we’ve achieved agreement on which way is up and which way is down. That’s real progress

  38. Joy’s Bible apparently lacks verses about how “every knee will bend and every tongue will confess” but includes verses about not protesting against vaccine mandates.

  39. The lines do say something about vaccination. If they worked as the jab fanatics claim, then solid green well into this year should be approaching convergence with dotted green as all-cause mortality slides back to normal levels. But it isn’t. Why? Attributed Covid deaths are down (but not because of the jabs, and not enough to explain the still very disproportionately high solid green; and we’ve had over-attribution of deaths to Covid all along anyway). Presumably not as many excess deaths can be blamed on collateral damage from lockdowns this year either as compared to last year (though debatable – we are still seeing long term deaths from businesses destroyed, education and career plans destroyed, people fired or having to quit because of tyrannical jab mandates, cancers and other illnesses that went untested for or untreated, overdoses and suicides, etc.).

    So why is solid green still so disproportionately high long after mass vax rollouts if the jabs are working? Oh, they’re working all right – working to kill.

  40. As I said before, the Moronic scarient seems to be a mild cold at worst even in the vexxinated. Let’s all get that!

    The vexxines didn’t stop anyone getting it, getting sick, getting hospitalized, dying, or spreading it. Natural immunity is the best.

    Honestly, the Moronic scarient is all over the place by now. It is possibly zoonotic in origin. It’s not as though the virus wasn’t endemic already.

    Everybody relax; Covid is now a very mild cold.

    Forget the vexxine passports and associated nonsense. Don’t wear masks (unless you’re robbing a bank 😉 Burn the concentration camps to the ground. Ignore the fines. That is how we will get back to normal.

  41. An interesting comment between two co-workers for the morning meeting at work on the MS Teams chat. Quote:

    [9:03 AM] Person 1

    Was going to mention this in the meeting, but I’ll just link some stuff instead.

    If you’re getting dry eyes from wearing a mask all the time you need to keep an eye out for something called a Chalazion. It’s “a small, usually painless, lump or swelling that appears on your eyelid.” It’s caused by blocked oil glands. It’s pretty easy to treat at home, fortunately, but can lead to degraded tear production if ignored.

    I’m letting you know about this because I developed one last week. It’s slowly disappearing, but it was rather painful and is still causing my right eye minor aggravation and dryness.

    https://www.healthline.com/health/chalazion
    Here’s a link to an image. Some people are squeamish when it comes to eye pictures, but this is pretty tame and shows a mild case like mine was.

    https://eyelovecares.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Chalazion2-1024×683.jpg

    [9:08 AM] Person 2

    Thanks (Person 1)! My doctor diagnosed me as having a chronic eye disease; now I’m seriously questioning the diagnosis. The link to the mask never occurred to me.

  42. So why is solid green still so disproportionately high long after mass vax rollouts if the jabs are working? Oh, they’re working all right – working to kill.
    1.
    In excess of a third of the US population hasn’t been vaccinated. You might have a more up to date figure.
    ?2.
    (and ignoring the sarcasm) We covered this before, what do you understand by “working’. You already agreed this months back, now you seem to be changing the goal posts again.

  43. Regarding the date of roll out for the US it is claimed to have been 14th December from the minimal searching I did the other day. Must admit I thought it was January, but in that case it is entirely reasonable to attribute the fall of that green line to the early roll out of the vaccine in the US.
    As for the rising cases? It’s also entirely reasonable to assume the unvaccinated, which are a different population, are finally coming into contact with the virus over time, where they were protected early on.
     
    Add the waining of the vaccine and the enormous number of unprotected individuals, it’s not surprising.

  44. Yeah, Adams long ago reveled himself to be an idiot.

    I for one can’t wait to tell everyone “I told you so” and “I knew all along” (already do really), and revel in Schadenfreude.

  45. The bible says,
    But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.
    It says nothing about being a political activist or protester on ANY topic.

    As for “every tongue confess him’
    We used to sing a hymn about that. All C of E regulars will probably know it
    Holy Holy Holy, if I recall.

    Yet I have discovered through time, and from a time when I was the only one defending Christianity, when Briggs, even, wasn’t claiming to believe in God, years ago: that it isn’t enough to be in the right, as far as groups and crowds are concerned. It takes time, but eventually everybody comes around to the truth. For those who believe in God, therefore, they have nothing to fear. For those who do not, they also have nothing to fear, since I believe God judges the heart. He is not irrational. Nor is is right to bash those who lack faith for lacking it. It is the height of Unchristian. It is the pinnacle, in my view. Thee is a bible verse from the story of Jesus which supports that. Paul also implies the same.

    You can spot a true Christian, it seems some are good at putting on the act, but you really can tell, if people believe or not, if you observe them for long enough. How easy it must be for God?

    *
    I posted the above in error in response to Rudolph on another post.
    Since doing so, I realised the hymn is At The Name Of Jesus
    similar tempo…different hymn.

  46. Jim G: Masks also cause acne, eczema, headaches, halitosis, dental disease, plus neurological deficits in children.

    Of course, the vexxine also causes heart disease in children. And stillbirths for pregnant mothers. There aren’t enough lawsuits in the world.

  47. I challenge Joy’s faith. She could respond quite easily by affirming Christ as I have. I will do so again: Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior, who was born of the Virgin Mary and resurrected from the dead, who sits at the right hand of the Father and will come again in glory. He is my Lord and Savior, and I pledge my fealty to Him.

    There is absolutely nothing in Christianity which says that we should not affirm our belief in Christ publicly, and in fact both Jesus and his apostles say the exact opposite on multiple occasions.

    And yet when I ask about Joy’s faith she instead gives me a lecture about how I should respect those without faith. Who can she be talking about other than herself? But yet she will continue to try to use the moral authority of Christ to push for things like blind acceptance of the Covid vexxines.

    Literally all she has to do to prove me wrong is affirm her faith in Christ. It’s one sentence, and it would be a sentence that would be pleasing to God. But she adamantly refuses to do it, because doing so would violate her true faith.

  48. As for Scott Adams, he has some value in an observer of the human condition, particularly in the ways that people can be duped by propaganda and advertising. (And of course he is very keenly aware of how corporate culture works.) But he doesn’t develop any useful or valid philosophy from that, despite his claims otherwise. Most amusingly he is very vulnerable to propaganda himself, but will deny it (even though his philosophy says that EVERYONE, including himself, is not really rational but instead will fall victim to such techniques.)

    Most of all though he glories in “being the best predictor.” He mainly does this by making very mild predictions, then making the exact opposite a month or so later, and then hoping you forget that he predicted things twice when he points to his correct prediction. But this most recent spat is a new level of absurdity: when challenged about his claim that everyone is just “guessing” (by people who made correct predictions, with very detailed explanations for why those predictions must be right) responded by saying “I’m the best predictor in the country and I don’t see any way to be certain about the vaccinations.” That is, no one else can be right since if anyone could it would be Adams, and he doesn’t see a way to do that, so it’s impossible. QED.

  49. “literally”. Rudolph, you seem to think people can’t follow you point?
    Your idea of what faith means is shallow and unthinking. ..
    How many times can you be so wrong
    I can make it easier for you, if I said that if your definition of faith means what you say? then I have noneYet nothing has changed since you interrupted. I’m not seeking your approval

  50. Dennis: I for one can’t wait to tell everyone “I told you so” and “I knew all along” (already do really), and revel in Schadenfreude.

    The vexicuted children might not be into Schadenfreude.

  51. Notice this slippery remark:
    “There is absolutely nothing in Christianity which says that we should not affirm our belief in Christ publicly, and in fact both Jesus and his apostles say the exact opposite on multiple occasions.”
     
    Not sure you quite meant that second clause, but anyway I see what you’re trying to do in making your demands seem reasonable.
    Notice that that is also not what I claimed. but you’re effectively lying, again, Rudolph, at this point.
     
    Watch also, for arguments from absence, which is another favourite claim by many. One which only normally thinking christians accept. The same argument is dismissed as and when it suits people who are fundamentalists, like Rudolph, you, evidently are.
     
    Exchanging Gospel quotes is also a waste of time but suffice to say, you’re quite wrong in thinking that it is your place to arrogate yourself as you do. It’s a kind of blasphemy. If you were an authority figure in reality, such as a court or a king? A boss? particularly if their aim was persecution, which I can’t imagine, I would have something to say. As it stands, I’ve said more than almost anybody on the subject, so can therefore tell you are being dishonest and arrogant in your demands

  52. “The vexicuted children might not be into Schadenfreude.”

    Perhaps I should clarify. Of course, the children are among the victims. I meant, as the objects of my Schadenfreude (and wrath and righteous fury), the various adult Pushers and Propagandists coercing not only other adults, but innocent children – who mostly have no choice but to do what their parents and/or docs say – into taking these unsafe and ineffective jabs.

  53. It’s amusing to imagine pseudo-Christians act the way they do on literally any other subject.

    Pseudo-Christian: Long spiel about how men should love their wives, and in order to show that they love their lives they must buy flowers from his store.
    Questioner: Do you love your wife?
    PC: That’s a personal question. I think its rude to talk about whether people love their wives or not.
    Q: Weren’t you just talking about what people should do to show that they love their wives?
    PC: The stuff I was talking about was just stuff that any decent husband should do. You don’t need to know if I love my wife to know if you should do that stuff.
    Q: So do you do that stuff, out of love of your wife?
    PC: Look, I don’t know why you’re so picky about whether I love my wife or not. It’s offensive that you would suggest I don’t and it’s off topic.
    Q: So you do love your wife?
    PC: I don’t need to answer that. I refuse to state if I do or not, and I think that you’re a bad person for not respecting the fact that some husbands might not love their wives.
    Q: Does that mean that you don’t love your wife, and I should respect you for it?
    PC: My wife knows if I love her, but frankly I don’t think she’d like me saying my actual feelings on the matter. Look, could we stop talking about this? It doesn’t matter if I love my wife or not, it doesn’t affect whether I’m a good person. Now, let’s get back to the topic: if you don’t let me sell you flowers for your wife, then you don’t love your wife and you’re a bad husband…

  54. Then again, if there were lots of vexxine orphans, they’d be at the not-so-tender mercy of Fauci and his minions.

  55. Read line one, scanned down to a line about loving your wife.
    Rudolph, You don’t need to believe Me I’m not asking you to do so, I’m wondering why you can’t accept the simple facts about Christianity, and faith in general, I’ve an idea it has to do with your own brand of ‘faith’.
    As to your rudeness? well, it’s the atmosphere here, some people think it’s normal.

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