There were comments, hither and yon, about whether people were dying older today than they were in olden days. Some said yes, some said it was only an illusion, perhaps because of increased infant survival rates. So I thought I’d look. And did. The results are down below (spoiler: we are living longer), after something more interesting.
As I was looking, I noticed a strange artifact in the data. The number of people killed before they could escape their wombs were not counted in the official death data.
I counted. Here for the USA is a plot of the proportion of all deaths, by year, of those killed inside their would-be mothers.

There were many years in which those who were killed in the womb almost equaled those who died outside of them; i.e., nearly half of all deaths were caused by womb-killing. I find this a remarkable number. Perhaps you will, too. Even though the proportion is lower now, it is still enormous.
The same graph for England Wales is below, after the details.
Details
Every year people of all ages die. Some are killed before or during their exits from their wombs. The womb-killed bodies were not in the official death numbers tracked by the respected Human Mortality Database, from where I retrieved all other death counts by age and year (for many countries). Their data is often the result of their own models, which you can read about there. Meaning there is some uncertainty to all you see here.
I sometimes added the womb-killed esimates/counts to the HMD category “Age 0”. Problem is, there is some plus-or-minus to the womb-killed numbers, especially before 1973 when it was still illegal for women to kill their kids. It still happened, of course, because Americans are traditionally free spirits and scoff at unwelcome laws. But it didn’t happen at rates as great as they would when Equality hit. My counts and estimates are from the Guttmacher Institute, a group well known for tracking these things.
Their numbers before 1973 are a rough estimate based on surveys and the like, numbers which were difficult to come by or to entirely trust because womb-killing was against the law. Even after it was legal, each year wasn’t counted perfectly, though accuracy did improve with time. For missing years, I linearly extrapolated guesses.
In 1950, for instance, their estimate is 600,000. By 1955 they estimated 700,000. My extrapolation guess for 1951 is 620,000. And so on. The peak, says Guttmacher, was 1.6 MILLION in 1990. You see that brutal era in the plots. Numbers are indeed lower now, but that’s mainly because fewer people are attempting to procreate and because of the increased use of birth prevention devices and drugs (“the pill” is almost routine for many now). But I think, too, the drugs women take soon after coitus to poison any conception are not counted.
Also, women are just plain older now, on average, and so fewer can become pregnant. Reality does not acknowledge Equality, even though we must.
Anyway, we are left with uncertainty. Some periods are more uncertain than others, which is why I denoted the period before 1973 with a specially colored line (white in black).
I have no estimates of miscarriages, which rightfully belongs to the early, infant, or Age 0 category. That is, current guesses of rates can be had now, but getting them historically is a problem. It’s difficult to predict whether these numbers have declined with increaseing medical capabilities, or if they have instead increased if we include IVF, which are largely planned mechanical miscarriages, since most of the lives made with IVF are snuffed out.
All these caveats are important, and make a nice area for study for some aspiring sociologist or demographer. You already know fertility rates are declining everywhere rapidly, at the same moment most cultures reward the sexually sterile the most. Indeed, non-reproductive activities are seen almost as kinds of superpowers. It’s very strange.
However, our topic is death, and at what ages it occurs.
Deaths
USA
Statistics like life expectancy have their uses, but one-number summaries of complex distributions always suffer in one way or another (see below). They can mislead and cannot give a full picture of what is happening. But we can. Here is a frequency distribution of death age—the age at which people were recorded to have died—for each year of available data. This is for the USA. This does not have the womb-killed numbers.

You have to stare at the sequence a few times until you become accustomed to what’s happening. Most obviously, infant deaths used to be huge and have dropped to seemingly small numbers. It’s only seemingly because womb-killing is not included in these numbers, which I’ll do below.
It also becomes clear that age at death is increasing: we are dying at older ages than before. The question we began with has been answered: People are living longer now. Up to a point. Always up to a point. The maximum here is “110+” (which I coded as 115). This, or even a little before at 105, appears to be some kind of wall which once hit is fatal, with only a very few slipping under the crack. Another way to say it: the maximum lived age is not increasing, or is but not by a perceptible amount.
This pattern is repeated in all the countries the HMD has. They do not have all countries. And even in some of those they do their data has limited historical scope. There is nothing in Africa, and only Chile represents South America. East Asia is limited to Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea and Taiwan. No China. South Asia and the Middle East, except Israel, is missing entirely.
I’ll include a couple of other countries below the fold. Too many at once can be dizzying.
You can see the Baby Boom strolling to their Final Exit. Watch that “horn” walk upwards to the end. The horn is the male-female difference. HMD breaks their data down by sex, and in the animation below we learn only the old wisdom that men die earlier up until about 80 years old, after which women outpace men. Which means women are hardest hit.

The green line, if you hadn’t noticed, demarcates the more men than women: this is just the ratio of male deaths to female deaths. It is not only in times of war that young men, say around 20, die at three times the rate of women. But perhaps it is remarkable that even at the youngest ages more males than females die. Until the weakest are cleared out. By age 80, the men who made it are more robust and the women start slipping under faster.
We can see population increases in the first animation, or rather infer them, by the increasing numbers of people dying at all ages. But we can’t see everything. We don’t see births or immigration, nor emigration. So we don’t, in these plots, learn where the increased numbers are coming from.
Here is the same animation as above, but now adding the womb-killing to Age 0. Startling, is it not? It still astonishes me that men allow women to kill their children.

England & Wales
We begin with the proportion of deaths attributed to womb-killing (here data is from the UK itself and Johnston’s archive, with the same caveats about about uncertainty; i.e. do not swear to any particular numbers). This is only England & Wales and not Scotland.

It’s curious that the rate is still increasing here. England’s rulers are welcoming foreigners with the same ardency of lonely maidens holding the door open for vampires. Perhaps it is the foreigners who are assimilating to the native culture, at least in womb-killing. Or perhaps the natives, exhausted by the endless lies of their rulers, are giving up. You tell me.
Here is the death distribution animation, as above (no womb-killing included):

Don’t miss the ludicrous bump centered around 20-year-olds about 1940. There are some other peaks that come and go along the way of local interest. The early high-infant-mortality is there, as before. In any case, it’s true here that people are dying older.
I won’t bother adding in the womb-killing for another animation. It has the same depressing shape as in the States.
Two One-Numbers
There are other ways to display the data besides animation, but all require great screen space and much scrolling. As I said above, one-number summaries can provide insight, but at the cost of easy interpretation. Still, people hanker.
One idea is to look at the proportion of deaths over 80 (or 85) years old through time. Another is to look at the mean age of death for all those who died after, say, age 5. The reason for after 5 are those “bi-modal” peaks in the death-age distributions. If you make it past 5, there’s a good chance you’ll make it a lot longer. Other possibilities exist, of course, but with these we can look at many countries at once. There is no womb-killed in the data below.
Start with the proportion of deaths over 80 by country:

It’s hard to pick out individual countries, but our point here is not any particular place, but all. It’s clear enough an increasing number of those equal to or greater than 80 are dying. There is a kind of dispsy-doodle in the 1960s.
Another reason why single-numbers fail: consider we have a cohort (say born in 1930). The proportion of those dying at age >80 in 1940 would be 0, and same in 1950, but there’s be a jump at 2010 to some positive number, which would only increase after that but only because the cohort itself is growing older. That happens, too, to a certain extent in the main death data, but not as much, and there we know we have immigration and births.
Here’s the same for 85:

Same story. Now the mean age of death for those who make it past 5:

The devastation of WWII is there. Wiped out a good chunk of young men (women hardest hit). WWI would be there, too, if the data started early enough. No big signal for the covid panic.
Video
Other Countries’ Animations
WARNING! Your eyes can go buggy staring at these. But for the sake of completeness, here are a few other representative country animations. For our main question—are people dying older?—they are much the same. Those interested in individual countries might take some benefit, too.
Taiwan

Chile

Poland

Netherlands

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Thank you for this detailed information.
I can’t help but wonder what today’s world would look like had we maintained womb protection for our littlest ones….
A totally self-serving question (although, one that I know you could work through). If of no value to the whole, feel free to delete. I had an event this weekend that I am trying to get my mind wrapped around. I met some cousins in Louisiana and amongst these, was a very interesting lady who is 95 years old. We share an ancestor (my G G Grandfather and, believe it or not, her grandfather). So, here I was, with my grandparents born in the early 1900’s and there she was, the youngest daughter, of the youngest daughter of a civil war veteran who was born in 1835 and a living granddaughter of a civil war veteran. Hard to wrap my mind around. So, I asked AI if it could determine how many living grandchildren, roughly, might be alive today, given average life expectancy and allowing for our US population growth. AI went into full tilt mode and offered nonsense. Which leaves me with the question…how many folks might still be alive as grandchildren of, in this example, someone who was born in 1835?
If they’re just keeping dementia patients alive longer because it’s profitable for the medical industrial complex then we’re not really gaining anything. Judging by Canada’s contemporary enthusiasm for euthanasia the graphs to 2030 may start look a bit different.
It’s been fairly settled for many decades as far as I understand that max human life span is 120 years, no surprise to see that confirmed here.
Foetal tissue is a very profitable product for the medical industrial complex so the question is as to whether it’s a mature sector or there’s still growth potential.
When I was a kid, in the 1960s in the U.S., every adult in my family, and most of their friends and co-workers, were smokers. People smoked in restaurants, movie theaters, and grocery stores. I remember ash trays on the tables in the public library. It seems as if the drastic drop in the percentage of smokers in the last few decades must be contributing to longer life spans. If you look up celebrities of the 1930s, ’40s, and ’50s, you’ll find that many died in their fifties and sixties, and lung cancer is almost ubiquitous in their obituaries. Today, smoking has been replaced by obesity, which does not, so far, seem to be keeping the terminal age number from gradually rising.
Self-serving comment? Maybe. BUT it was really interesting to read.
As a child I lived next door to a centenarian. As a small child, HE had been at Gettysburg (gamboling in the grass) when Abraham Lincoln gave his famous address.
In less than two decades I, too, will be a centenarian. Oh! how the arc of time stretches….
Well, hopefully they enjoy those longer lives while they last, because there is an eternity in Hell waiting for them on the other side for those abortion numbers.
Guttmacher’s numbers of pre-Roe abortions are hugely inflated. They had an interest in making those numbers higher (convincing people that they were already common), and so they did. The population of the United States in the 50s and 60s was MUCH lower than now, their estimates of illegal abortions are absurd.
Once a woman becomes pregnant, she is a mother, and the man who gave his sperm is a father. When their child dies, or how their child dies, whether from miscarriage, abortion, or, does not negate those facts.
I BELIEVE THAT “Limbo” does not exist and never has existed, though taught by the Catholic Church. Can you see a mother who miscarried, being told, well sorry, you lost your child, and did not get the remains baptized, so the child will live out eternity in Limbo, in perfect natural happiness. Think of the heartbreak so many, many mothers have gone through due to that teaching.
I think that God our Father takes all of the murdered children to Himself, whether they were baptized or not. And they are reunited with their family later. Father does know and do best.
God bless, C-Marie
The research and studies about reversing Alzheimer’s and other dementia is amazing.
It will have a big impact on longevity and greatly reduce expenditures in the medical, pharma, elder care, and the elder murder industries.
Please look into Dr. Dale Bredesen and his protocol for Alzheimer’s Disease treatment. Hi most recent book is “The Ageless Brain”.
Men do not simply “allow” women to kill their children. They also demand it, drive or coerce them to the appointments, and perform the murders themselves with their own two hands under the guise of doctors. This is to say nothing of the significant male contribution to the pornography industry, which requires the convenience of on demand child slaughter to keep its trafficked victims in a condition suitable for perpetual performance for the gratification of the predominantly masculine audience.
It is ultimately men who benefit the most from the convenience of abortion. It doesn’t harm them physically or mentally, but has the effect of enabling free perpetual access to sex without the annoying inconvenience of the natural function of the female reproductive system.
We are all complicit in this atrocity.
Long time, no comment, but a few years ago I compared estimated stillbirth + abortion numbers (excluding miscarriages) in the country of Malawi, Africa, and in the United States.
TL;DR:
Malawi
total percentage of fetal deaths (excluding miscarriages) per all pregnancies
~ 10%
US
total percentage of fetal deaths (excluding miscarriages) per all pregnancies
~ 20%
===
Malawi population
~ 19,000,000
Malawi birth rate
~ 41 births/1,000 population
~ 780,000 births per year
Malawi
stillbirths (spontaneous fetal mortality past 20 weeks’ gestation) per 1000 total births (UNICEF)
NOTE: This is an estimate; possible misclassifications of “born live, died soon” and reported stillbirths (fetus born dead)
~ 22
~ 2.2% per total births
~ 17,000 stillbirths per year
Malawi
Abortion is illegal in Malawi
(illegal) induced abortions (estimate for 2009) [see note 1, below]
~ 67,000
Malawi
total stillbirth/abortion per year
~ 84,000
Malawi
total percentage of fetal deaths (excluding miscarriages) per all pregnancies
(using ~ 67,000 unreported abortions + ~ 780,000 births per year)
~ 10%
===
US population
~ 330,000,000
US birth rate
12.2 births/1,000 population
~ 4,000,000 births per year
US
stillbirths (spontaneous fetal mortality past 20 weeks’ gestation) per 1000 total births (CDC)
~ 10
~ 1% per total births
~ 40,000 stillbirths per year
US
induced abortions in 2014 (Guttmacher Institute)
~ 926,000
US
total stillbirth/abortion per year
~ 966,000
US
total percentage of fetal deaths (excluding miscarriages) per all pregnancies
(using ~ 926,000 estimated abortions + ~ 4,000,000 births per year)
~ 20%
===
Reference
[1] Estimate of induced abortions in Malawi: (The incidence of induced abortion in Malawi. International Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2013, 39(2):88-96, doi: 10.1363/3908813)
“Approximately 18,700 women in Malawi were treated in health facilities for complications of induced abortion in 2009. An estimated 67,300 induced abortions were performed, equivalent to a rate of 23 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 and an abortion ratio of 12 per 100 live births.”
JohnK,
Thanks. Rather depressing.
I do census data research, and something very striking is comparing age profiles. The age distribution in 1900 is more-or-less a triangle from 20% under 10 to 0 at 100. The age profile from 1980 onwards is startling, it’s a solid rectangle with 10% for every age decile, before dropping to 0 from 80 to 100.
I think this feeds into people’s horror of death. In “the old days” everybody knew 10% of your contemporaries would die every year, people now expect everybody in their community to still be alive next year, and are horrified when it doesn’t happen.
See mdfs.net/Docs/Whitby/Census/Ages.txt
“By age 80, the men who made it are more robust and the women start slipping under faster.”
Well, since about half of humans are female and everybody dies at some point before 120yrs. Obviously at some age more women will have to die. What else can happen? Men dying five times each (that’s the ratio of females to males still living in this age bracket if I remember correctly)? I can’t imagine robustness as explanation for this part of graph.